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Forum topic by dbw posted 08-01-2020 08:30 PM 1486 views 0 times favorited 36 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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dbw

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08-01-2020 08:30 PM

Topic tags/keywords: hand plane veritas lie-nielsen stanley

Greetings folks. If money was no object and you wanted to buy a Jack Plane which brand would you buy and why?

-- measure 3 times, cut once


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Aj2

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#1 posted 08-01-2020 09:33 PM

One of each too see which one I liked the best.
My unsolicited advise is to have a little new and a little bit of old.

Good Luck

-- Aj

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#2 posted 08-01-2020 10:07 PM

I really want to say the new Veritas custom 5 or 5-1/2 but it looks like the extra options are all additional costs so that rules them out entirely.

I guess I would go Bed Rock Type 6a with a Veritas PM-V11 iron. Or a Marsh M5 with the same Vertisas iron. Kind of a toss up there.

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SMP

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#3 posted 08-01-2020 10:19 PM

Well for a jack plane, i’d just stick with an older stanley since I would camber the blade and use it more like a jack/fore plane. If I just had to spend money, I would go LN since I can’t stand the look of Veritas handles.

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Andre

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#4 posted 08-01-2020 10:41 PM

Most vintage Stanley #5 with veritas PMV-11 iron, my Bailey has the 1910 Pat. :)

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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KYtoolsmith

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#5 posted 08-01-2020 11:42 PM

Well… If money were no object… I’d get two. A Stanley Bailey No 5 Type 11, and a Stanley Bedrock 605 Type 8. Both in pristine original condition of course! Oh wait! I’ve already got both. !!! Darn the bad luck…

Regards, The Kentucky Toolsmith!

-- "Good enough" is just another way of saying "it could be better"...

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#6 posted 08-02-2020 12:04 AM

Lie Nielsen with a 50 degree frog. Zero tear out on maple butcher block work top.

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Axis39

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#7 posted 08-02-2020 12:24 AM

Money no object? Lee Neilson. Not really sure it’s that much better than the Veritas, but my perception fo the two items I’ve never owned….

Reality? I’m actually looking for a good 5 1/5, or 605 1/2 Bedrock now. But, I don’t have the money for an LN. Heck, I don’t really have the money for a Bedrock 605 1/5 either. LOL. Honestly, I’ll just keep looking for a deal somewhere.

-- John F. SoCal transplant, chewer uppper of good wood

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therealSteveN

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#8 posted 08-02-2020 04:34 AM

I think the old Stanleys are a lot more fun, kind of a hobby, but also some work to keep them doing well.

For new, I’m a devote Lee Valley buyer, user, lover. Those you pay once, and then just use them effortlessly forever.

To me the Lie Nielsen’s are just Stanleys made with 21st century metal technology. Well, a few of the low angle’s are a bit more advanced..

I always suggest this, but not sure if anyone does it. Both LN, and LV travel the same show circuit. Find out when they will be closest, go and they will let you freely use their entire inventory. Pick the one you like the most. I’ve been to close to 40 of them, and always end up with Lee Valley.

For the Stanleys, if you live in a larger area. Put up a post with your general location, and ask if any Stanley 605 owners would let you grope their plane. Bring a small gift of gratitude, and I’ll bet you get invited back. Well I say grope, lets not get crazy there….. :-)

-- Think safe, be safe

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Don W

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#9 posted 08-02-2020 11:29 AM

If money was no object, I’d have all three plus a couple Sargent’s, a few Miller’s falls, an Ohio tools, a ride City, a Marcou, and who know how many others

Since money is always an object, I’d stick with vintage, just because they’re much more interesting

-- http://timetestedtools.net - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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dbw

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#10 posted 08-02-2020 05:55 PM



I think the old Stanleys are a lot more fun, kind of a hobby, but also some work to keep them doing well.

For new, I m a devote Lee Valley buyer, user, lover. Those you pay once, and then just use them effortlessly forever.

To me the Lie Nielsen s are just Stanleys made with 21st century metal technology. Well, a few of the low angle s are a bit more advanced..

I always suggest this, but not sure if anyone does it. Both LN, and LV travel the same show circuit. Find out when they will be closest, go and they will let you freely use their entire inventory. Pick the one you like the most. I ve been to close to 40 of them, and always end up with Lee Valley.

For the Stanleys, if you live in a larger area. Put up a post with your general location, and ask if any Stanley 605 owners would let you grope their plane. Bring a small gift of gratitude, and I ll bet you get invited back. Well I say grope, lets not get crazy there….. :-)

- therealSteveN


I looked at the pics of the Veritas Jack on the LV website. The adjustments appear to be the same as the new Stanley SW, which I sold because I absolutely hated it. Every time I went to use it the depth setting was different from the previous use. It changed just sitting in the box. I have PTSD over this POS.

Is the LV adjustment the same?

-- measure 3 times, cut once

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bandit571

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#11 posted 08-02-2020 09:52 PM

Hmmm…

No words needed…

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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xedos

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#12 posted 08-03-2020 01:42 PM

None of those…................................

this is the money no object plane of choice for the well healed:

https://bridgecitytools.com/collections/planes/products/hp-12-smoothing-plane

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dbw

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#13 posted 08-03-2020 10:06 PM



None of those…................................

this is the money no object plane of choice for the well healed:

https://bridgecitytools.com/collections/planes/products/hp-12-smoothing-plane

- xedos


Allow me to redefine money no object: $400 max.

-- measure 3 times, cut once

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AGolden

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#14 posted 08-04-2020 01:46 AM

I would go with the Lie-Nielsen no. 62 low angle jack plane, I like the look of the Lie-Nielsen planes better. I also find the Norris adjuster on my Stanley Sweetheart low angle jack is a bit fiddly and can get knocked out of alignment when I adjust the blade depth, not sure if this is the case on the Veritas planes but it would definitely effect my decision until I have evidence to the contrary.

However, in an ideal world all of my bench planes would be Lie-Nielsen and all of my joinery/block planes would be LV Veritas. I will say that the one place where the innovation in design is really attractive is on those joinery planes such as the router plane and plow plane and I think Veritas has done a better job innovating on that front (disclaimer, i have a Lie-Nielsen router plane that i love)

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AlaskaGuy

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#15 posted 08-04-2020 03:03 AM

Allow me to redefine money no object: $400 max.

- dbw

None of those…................................

this is the money no object plane of choice for the well healed:

https://bridgecitytools.com/collections/planes/products/hp-12-smoothing-plane

- xedos

Allow me to redefine money no object: $400 max.

- dbw


Too late
https://www.thebestthings.com/newtools/karl_holtey_planes.htm

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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