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Forum topic by MiniMe posted 07-28-2020 04:11 PM 794 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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MiniMe

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07-28-2020 04:11 PM

Has anybody tried this?
I have this crazy idea, I am thinking about hanging the air hose of the pulleys you see in the picture so I can move it easier. The bottom end will be secured in place by some jig for each power tool that needs this
I am looking for pros and cons for this and if you are aware of anything similar any references will help


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#1 posted 07-28-2020 04:38 PM

your title says dust collector hose but then you refer too air hose ?

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#2 posted 07-28-2020 04:46 PM

AIR hose, fine. If you suspend enough DC hose to reach the far tool, when connected to a near tool the extra bend introduced into the hose will create resistance, and the extra bends will not pass dust and chips very well. I think you would be better off with some hard duct and shorter lengths of flex.

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#3 posted 07-28-2020 04:51 PM

I would agree with the above. My other concern would be that to have a flex hose long enough to make it to the far side, there will be a lot of movement when that flex hose will tries to shorten up under vacuum, which may pull things all out of whack.

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#4 posted 07-28-2020 04:59 PM

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this what i came up with for hooking up my sanders,works real good.stationary tools though need 4” solid ducting in as straight a run as possible.

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#5 posted 07-28-2020 05:18 PM

Rockler sells a bunch of overpriced overhead sliding hose hangers.

As has been noted the extra bends act as traps for debris. Much better to have smooth wall tubing and metal blast gates with no ups and downs.

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#6 posted 07-28-2020 06:18 PM

sorry it is the dust collector hose
it is not going to be a very long one and I am tempted to use only one pulley and that one will allow pivoting around the the hanging point …or I could use carabiners if I use two pulleys

I have a metal overarm that is heavy and difficult to move from one tool to the other (it pivots but not really happy with the whole thing)

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#7 posted 07-28-2020 06:29 PM

is there a reason you cant do a solid run from the collector and have a blast gate for each machine,that would be the most efficient way.as said flex hose and bends will reduce the flow.how long is it from the dc to the farthest machine?

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#8 posted 07-28-2020 06:48 PM



is there a reason you cant do a solid run from the collector and have a blast gate for each machine,that would be the most efficient way.as said flex hose and bends will reduce the flow.how long is it from the dc to the farthest machine?

- pottz


that is how it is, you can guess it in the picture…but the hose has to come from above in certain situations (one of them is when used on the table saw)

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#9 posted 08-10-2020 08:53 PM

Why not move your dust collector to you machine? Most have wheels on them. Buy a 10’ section of hose, be done, and build things. Choice #2 – use PVC pipe and hang it from the ceiling, why does it have to raise and lower? Hanging from the ceiling will definitely get in the way when cutting sheet goods on your table saw. I learned the hard way.

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#10 posted 08-11-2020 01:37 AM

I don’t have that much room in my garage.
I have the Harbor Freight one which is on wheels already but the garage is small and packed with things


Why not move your dust collector to you machine? Most have wheels on them. Buy a 10 section of hose, be done, and build things. Choice #2 – use PVC pipe and hang it from the ceiling, why does it have to raise and lower? Hanging from the ceiling will definitely get in the way when cutting sheet goods on your table saw. I learned the hard way.

- northwoodsman


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#11 posted 08-11-2020 05:51 AM

+1 Losses from bends would be nasty.
Spiral hose as 3x pressure loss of pipe. Pressure loss from any bends in hose/pipe is HUGE.

IMHO Overhead hose system might work for low volume high pressure vacuum system, but will not work for wood working dust collection achieved via high volume low pressure like your Grizzly.

Personally, I refuse to avoid rope and pulleys indoors.
Only use them when I am stuck in middle of nowhere, with only pocket knife and some matches for survival. Real men use Tool Balancer’s to hold stuff over head the work space:
https://www.mcmaster.com/Tool-Balancers/
https://www.ergonomicpartners.com/tool-balancers

Have hung an entire 10gal shop vac from ceiling using separate tool balancer’s for machine and hose end in a production shop.

PS – with all the wasted space against the wall under your tools, will be easy to run PVC pipe down the wall. Install blast gates under the table, and run hose to tool through table. Use the overhead space for some nice cabinets to store your extra stuff. If the drawing is not complete and the space is being used already; then might be trying to shove 20lbs of potatoes into 5lb sack, and need to redesign your shop from beginning with more space.

Best Luck.

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#12 posted 08-11-2020 12:34 PM

We all want/need more space!!! I have 100# of potatoes in a 20# sack in my shop.

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