Stain pulled in a couple spots under Arm R Seal application

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Forum topic by markf31 posted 07-09-2020 05:11 PM 187 views 0 times favorited 1 reply Add to Favorites Watch
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07-09-2020 05:11 PM

Im finishing up a countertop that I stained with Minwax oil stain and then Arm R Seal satin topcoat. I am applying the Arm R Seal with a cotton cloth and the majority of the top looks great after an initial coat of the Arm R Seal. There are two spots though where I must have pulled the cotton cloth with a extra pressure, and I can see faint start/stop lines where the Arm R Seal pulled the stain a little more in that area.

Could I spot sand the areas just before and after the pull marks, re apply a wash of stain to try to even the transition out and then come back and feather a new first coat of Arm R Seal in this area? I would like to avoid sanding the entire counter top back down to fix this.

Any thoughts, ideas or anyone with similar experience?

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#1 posted 07-12-2020 11:47 AM

IMHO – Putting Oil based stain on top of Arm-R-Seal (ARS) is not going to have good adhesion. It will likely rub off even easier with next coat of finish?

Suggest using a the oil stain (or a dye stain) as toner. Mix different small amounts of stain into a couple 1-2 ounce cups of ARS thinned 50/50 with paint thinner. Then use the colored poly to balance out the color in panel. It is slow process, so have patience. Might even need to use small artist brushes, or an air brush to make it look right. If don’t like it, wipe it off with Mineral spirits and try again.
Once the ARS dries/cures, it will not move around like using only oil stain on top of finish.
Be sure to blend the edges of ARS color patch with 600 grit. Then scuff sand everything with 0000 steel wool or white plastic buff pad before the next the ARS layer to avoid creating new striations where the colored ARS stops/starts. It takes the touch of artist to make toning colors work, it can muddy the grain slightly, but it does work.

User toners is common technique for adjusting stain colors with variances in wood, or touch up. If you like to learn more about the technique, it is mostly used with spray lacquer finishes in online documentation. But can be extended to other finishes with proper edge blending and a ton of patience.

Best Luck!

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