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07-06-2020 03:50 PM

Power storage in batteries is improving. NiCads, NiMh are in the rear view mirror and have all but disappeared. I jumped on the bandwagon when Li ion became more reasonably priced. Once you buy into a brand, you are connected to its system of batteries for a long time. With the recent batt systems for yard equipment the battery/brand choice includes many products. So, what are you doing with your older drill driver systems, chargers, drill drivers and impact drivers? I have three driver bodies and as many impact drivers with one battery that kind of holds a charge. I keep thinking I am going to order more batteries and use them as back ups. So far, I have not done it and the tangle of cords, and driver bodies need to go. So, what have you done with your older systems? Buying into new product lines? Mine are the Makita brand. Just wondering. Brian


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#1 posted 07-06-2020 03:57 PM

“Buying into new product lines?”

Yes, Makita’s new line up is cost efficient for long term use.

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#2 posted 07-06-2020 03:58 PM

Power storage in batteries is improving. NiCads, NiMh are in the rear view mirror and have all but disappeared.
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So, what have you done with your older systems? Buying into new product lines? Mine are the Makita brand. Just wondering. Brian
- woodetal

My Makitas work just fine for what I do, the NiCD battery packs only cost me like $10 a piece when needed, and they last 3-4 years before needing replacement. I can see no reason to go out and spend a ton of money for the same tools just because they may have better batteries.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#3 posted 07-06-2020 04:23 PM

can see no reason to go out and spend a ton of money for the same tools just because they may have better batteries.

- MrUnix

Better batteries = better tools. There’s no comparison between a modern 18 or 20V Li-ion tool and an outdated NiCad.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#4 posted 07-06-2020 04:37 PM

The battery life on the new LiIon system is pretty impressive. The drive bodies and batteries are lighter. The big box had a combo deal on two batteries, driver/impact body late last year. So, I either spent $60 on replacement batts or $100 more for the brushless bodies, two batts and a charger. So, I did. No regrets. The wiring harness on my Husqvarna line trimmer or some other issue led me to the Makita line trimmer. Cost to repair the gas trimmer or batt powered line trimmer. Cost of repair and parts, around $95 versus BIG batt and line trimmer for $100 difference. No regrets. BUT, what are you all doing with the now outdated driver bodies? Giving them away? Craig’s list for few bucks?

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#5 posted 07-06-2020 04:55 PM

Giving them away?

Yes Sir

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#6 posted 07-06-2020 04:57 PM

Sometimes there are trade in deals when buying new tools. I have done that, or donate to habitat for humanity for their resale stores. It is not worth the hassle trying to sell old batt tools one. Brad is usually correct in his assessment, but this time I disagree. Not only are the batteries better, so are the tools. Depends on how much use, and your age, I plan to be around long enough for the investment. Unless the virus has other plans. And I only had three tools, a drill, an impact, and a sawzall, so not a large investment. I had Makita, but went with the Milwaukee this time. We had them on the job, and they are tough to beat.

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#7 posted 07-06-2020 05:51 PM

Ibewjon hit the nail on the head. Not only are the batteries better but the new brushless motors on the tools are more powerful and durable. Often a new driver or drill comes bundled with a battery for just a bit more than a new battery.

I do wish all the various makers would standardize their battery connections and chargers to make them universal. But the same goes for a lot of products. One that drives me bonkers is gas and diesel engine oil filters.

-- Les B, Oregon

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#8 posted 07-06-2020 06:03 PM

I had a few Dewalt 14.4 cordless tools that were Ni-Cad that I resurrected with a Li-Ion battery sold as an upgrade. There is also an adapter that allows their 20V Li-Ion batteries to be used with 18V Ni-Cad tools…..
I don’t know if Makita offers the same type of upgrades…..

-- "My greatest fear is that upon my demise, my wife will sell my tools for what I said I paid for them."

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#9 posted 07-06-2020 06:22 PM

I don’t know if Makita offers the same type of upgrades…..

LOL – My Makita’s use the 9.6v ‘pod’ style batteries ;)
I don’t think I would want to ‘upgrade’ to LiON simply because I can get NiCD batteries so much cheaper and they last longer. Understand though that is MY situation only. I infrequently use my cordless tools. If I used them day in and day out, I may feel differently. But I used my FIL’s newish 20v DeWalt last week… and it didn’t drill holes any better than my Makita did. About the only difference I noticed was it had one of them cool LED lights on it.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#10 posted 07-06-2020 06:32 PM

I donated all my unneeded tools to family. I have Nieces, Nephews, Cousin’s kids…whatever you call them…that are all getting to that age where they are starting out on their own, getting married, etc.

An old NiCad combo might not be as cool as the new stuff but if you’re just starting out in life and the combo works that’s something you don’t have to buy for awhile.

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#11 posted 07-06-2020 08:44 PM



I don t think I would want to upgrade to LiON simply because I can get NiCD batteries so much cheaper and they last longer.

My experience with Ni-Cad has been the polar opposite. I’m done with them, so I wouldn’t know if they are cheaper or not… My Bosch Ni-Cad battery tools are sitting collecting dust. The batteries didn’t last a year, and last time I checked, they didn’t offer a Li-Ion upgrade.

-- "My greatest fear is that upon my demise, my wife will sell my tools for what I said I paid for them."

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#12 posted 07-07-2020 12:22 AM


Mine are the Makita brand. Just wondering. Brian

- woodetal

Those Makita batteries of long ago. 9.6 v Nicads were total junk. In my area many many contractors who were Makita fanbois stopped with that dead, and most have never darkened their door again. Everyone moved to DeWalt for a lot of years. DeWalt lost a ton of dedicated folks when they went from 18 v NiCad to the 20v LIon, and offered no cross over to the many people who had bought their tools. Wasn’t until more than a year later they noticed this error, by then so many were gone. Milwaukee took off in cordless, the way they had been in corded for so many years.

A lot of opinion is based on batteries, their life, and the histories people had with them. In our area Milwaukee now owns the mantle, how they move forward will say a lot about how they fare.

-- Think safe, be safe

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#13 posted 07-07-2020 12:34 AM



A lot of opinion is based on batteries, their life, and the histories people had with them. In our area Milwaukee now owns the mantle, how they move forward will say a lot about how they fare.

- therealSteveN

The few tradesman I still talk to from when I worked construction are using DeWalt ONLY because we have a DeWalt service center centrally located in the city.

Just don’t make the mistake of asking them about the whole 18v vs 20v fiasco…you won’t hear the end of it for a good hour.

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#14 posted 07-07-2020 07:48 AM

I have an old 9.6v Makita and it still runs fine and I still buy aftermarket batteries for it but my new lion Makita is lighter, better balanced, smaller, the batteries charge faster, and has more power.

Also have Porter Cable set that is nicad and NIMH but you can’t buy batteries for them except those Chinese knockoffs. I have one working battery and when it goes, don’t know, might experiment with the motors or might toss them.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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#15 posted 07-07-2020 10:28 AM

I’ve only have experience with Dewalt and porter cable. My hope is Dewalt got their crap together with the new batteries because the drill I use to have worked fine but the battery needed junked every year, was actually quite pathetic how bad it was. I switched to porter cable nicad after that and they were a huge improvement. After 3 years with 4 batteries only one had started to go bad. I ended up catching the new PC lithium tool set on sale after thanksgiving one year and upgraded to them to get a impact driver. I use those tools on almost everything I make and all the house work I do and they are so much better than Dewalt and PC nicad stuff. The 4.0 battery lasts forever and I’ve really put them through the ringer and worked them like dogs and they’ve held up well. I’ve heard that PC and black and decker 20v batteries are nearly the same and just require a small modification but since I don’t own any b&d stuff I can’t verify
I sold my old PC tools on Craigslist. In hind sight I wish I’d kept them cause there were a few tools that they don’t make for the new set like the little vacuum

-- Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy might

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