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GrumpyGolfGuy

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07-05-2020 11:25 PM

I picked up a Stanley 4C type 17 the other day. Set about starting to restore it to user and noticed that the sides have jappaning on them. Is this typical?

Chris


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KYtoolsmith

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#1 posted 07-06-2020 12:27 AM

Are you sure it hasn’t had a rattle can restoration? All Bailey planes, thru the Type 19 and 20 have machined cheeks.
Regards, The Kentucky Toolsmith!

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#2 posted 07-06-2020 12:30 AM



Are you sure it hasn t had a rattle can restoration? All Bailey planes, thru the Type 19 and 20 have machined cheeks.
Regards, The Kentucky Toolsmith!

- KYtoolsmith

I have to take a closer look, thanks for the info, I.m still fairly new to the hand plane arena. Loving the journey though.

Chris

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#3 posted 07-06-2020 12:48 AM

Do you have a picture you could share with the class?

If you’re curious some paint thinner on a cotton swab will take off paint where as japanning will usually just giggle and turn shiny.

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GrumpyGolfGuy

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#4 posted 07-06-2020 12:50 AM



Do you have a picture you could share with the class?

If you re curious some paint thinner on a cotton swab will take off paint where as japanning will usually just giggle and turn shiny.

- sansoo22

I can post a pic tomorrow. I’ not home right now…..

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#5 posted 07-06-2020 02:22 AM

Maybe I am reading that incorrectly? I have three in my stuff that were produced with full body japanning.

“All Bailey planes, thru the Type 19 and 20 have machined cheeks”
- KYtoolsmith

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#6 posted 07-06-2020 03:03 AM



Maybe I am reading that incorrectly? I have three in my stuff that were produced with full body japanning.

- BlasterStumps

You have bench planes with a full japanned body? I’ve seen block planes this way but I can’t recall ever seeing a Stanley bench plane with full japanning.

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#7 posted 07-06-2020 03:18 AM

The No. 40 is japanned on the outer sides, as is the No. 64 (I’m told… :-)) Also the No. 10 belt maker’s plane (not a bench plane, of course). And KY said all Bailey planes, a very smart qualifier. Bottom line, I’m also drawing a blank re: a bailey bench plane that’s japanned on the ‘cheeks,’ or outer sides.

Also looking forward to Grumpy’s pic(s).

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BlasterStumps

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#8 posted 07-06-2020 03:36 AM

I did not realize the No.40 is not considered a “Bailey” plane. Learn sump’n new every day : )

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#9 posted 07-06-2020 11:01 AM

I don’t believe there is any documented evidence of a Bailey plane with japanning on the sides either. It’s more likely a painted cover-up.

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GrumpyGolfGuy

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#10 posted 07-06-2020 01:33 PM

Here’s some pics of the plane body…

Chris

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#11 posted 07-06-2020 04:57 PM

^that would be an aftermarket paint job

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GrumpyGolfGuy

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#12 posted 07-06-2020 05:22 PM

Yep, l totally agree. Stripped the paint off a small area to verify.

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Don W

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#13 posted 07-07-2020 11:55 AM



^that would be an aftermarket paint job

- Johnny7

I agree

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#14 posted 07-07-2020 02:26 PM

I’m by no means a plane expert, but I can tell you confidently that the black stuff on the sides of that plane is not Japanning !

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#15 posted 07-07-2020 02:33 PM

I’d strip those cheeks back to bare metal if you’re doing any kind of overhaul work on the plane personally. It certainly won’t hurt the plane functionality though and will prevent rust :-)

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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