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06-23-2020 12:29 AM

Topic tags/keywords: question miter saw

Because of their large capacity, I’ve had my eyes on one of these sliding miter saws for $350… and all of a sudden they’re unavailable at that price (but are available for quite a bit more).

Is this typical marketing – raise the price and then lower it for the 4th to create demand?

Or are they really going up for good now that they’re discontinued?

Speculation, I know, but there are people here who have been around the block with tools a lot longer than I have.


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#1 posted 06-23-2020 01:50 AM

Most tools will be going up across the board thanks to the trade war and coronavirus. Been happening for a while, but some segments of the market are slower than others to catch up with reality.

I just noticed a few months ago Fluke multimeters went up in price. The one that I own jumped from $150 to $220 and has settled around $175 now. That’s the most extreme case I’ve seen, but just about every power tool that isn’t manufactured in Europe is being affected right now.

Prices are going to continue to fluctuate as China does their thing dealing with COVID too.

How European companies are keeping their pricing stable is beyond me.

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#2 posted 06-23-2020 01:58 AM

I think that story is very true in general, but this is a discontinued model that went from $350 to $550 overnight. Part of it has to be limited stock, but it seems unlikely that this particular saw’s price is directly because of the trade war.

Interesting about the Fluke multimeter, though. That’a a huge swing.

(I got lucky and picked up an Extech meter that’s fairly equivalent to a Fluke one for $19 when Radio Shack was closing down a few years ago. My intention was to replace my analog RS-branded one that finally broke, the $25 one we all grew up with. :) )

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#3 posted 06-23-2020 02:07 AM

Hey, I checked again and just ordered one from Home Depot. I guess they’re back in stock.

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#4 posted 06-23-2020 02:38 AM

Yeah, you can thank Trump for that. But don’t worry, China is paying for the tariffs so I guess just call China for a rebate?

Lot’s of tools have been increasing drastically in price. I bought a DW734 about 6 years ago brand new for $325. A couple years ago it was $400. Now they are $450. Same machine, it hasn’t changed.

There is also the conspiracy theories about your browser history. If they know you want something, the price will keep going up. Rumor has it clearing your cache, cookies, etc will reset online prices.

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#5 posted 06-23-2020 03:10 AM



Yeah, you can thank Trump for that. But don t worry, China is paying for the tariffs so I guess just call China for a rebate?
- Walker

If you put some time in at the border wall maybe Mexico will pay for it. Personally, I’d just pay for it with the 10% tax cut we got.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

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#6 posted 06-23-2020 04:45 AM


Yeah, you can thank Trump for that. But don t worry, China is paying for the tariffs so I guess just call China for a rebate?

Lot s of tools have been increasing drastically in price. I bought a DW734 about 6 years ago brand new for $325. A couple years ago it was $400. Now they are $450. Same machine, it hasn t changed.

There is also the conspiracy theories about your browser history. If they know you want something, the price will keep going up. Rumor has it clearing your cache, cookies, etc will reset online prices.

- Walker

Right, they’re not dealing with China’s bad trade behavior in a rational way at all. It has to be coordinated internationally to have any positive effect (unless you really hate soy farmers, etc.). Trade wars just hurt everyone.

What you’re saying about browser history isn’t a conspiracy theory, it’s absolutely true that sites track you like crazy. Raising the prices, I dunno, but Home Depot is one of the worst stalkers around. Look at something on their site and you’re sure to get an email trying to get you to buy it.

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#7 posted 06-23-2020 08:05 AM

OP can’t be trying very hard, HD and Lowes have it for $350 right now. The 779 comes from Taiwan and Mexico so all the whining about Trump and Communist China completely misinformed. So what else is new…..

-- Eric

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#8 posted 06-23-2020 09:46 AM

Also consider the Hong Kong issue. Most mainland stuff exited Hong Kong ( officially) so did not pay duty. Now that has been removed. I think Tiawan still has special trade but not sure. So, the price of everything from China is going up. Guess who pays? WE do, not China. Anything else I might say to blow off steam would be inappropriately political. :)

It could be just market demand can allow a higher price. It could be the bi-annual shuffling of who bids to make which tool or pieces ( all come from a very few actual manufacturers )It could be low inventory can allow a higher price. It could be just taking advantage of all the shut-ins buying more tools so no one is discounting.

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#9 posted 06-23-2020 11:31 AM



OP can t be trying very hard, HD and Lowes have it for $350 right now. The 779 comes from Taiwan and Mexico so all the whining about Trump and Communist China completely misinformed. So what else is new…..

- Eric

A famous news station said that that some appliances are made in the US so the price will be okay….But, it’s not the appliance, or the car, or the table saw’s place of manufacture…. it’s the STEEL. That’s where the tariffs hit us. Short sighted thinking….

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#10 posted 06-23-2020 12:21 PM

In summary:
- OP was wrong, the price didn’t go up.
- OP has order said saw for the same price I paid 18 months ago.
- The 799 is sourced from Tiawan and Mexico not China.
- There isn’t any special China tariffs on the 799, not one thin dime’s worth. Never has been.

Yet:
It’s still Trump’s fault, orange man bad!

LOL, the TDS is strong in some (^^^^)

-- Eric

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#11 posted 06-23-2020 01:00 PM



OP can t be trying very hard, HD and Lowes have it for $350 right now. The 779 comes from Taiwan and Mexico so all the whining about Trump and Communist China completely misinformed. So what else is new…..

- Eric

Taiwan only, stopped making them in Mexico a while ago. Excuse me for not really caring and paying attention to which tool. You’re right, it’s EOL and the price is going up on Amazon because people are flipping the small amount of stock that’s left. Keeping up with tools from one of my least favorite brands is not exactly a priority.

Which makes this an edge case, and emphasizes the point that most other tools that aren’t EOL are going up in price or coming down in quality.

If I want decent drill bits I have to either buy them from Germany or Vietnam. Vietnam of all places, yeah?

I just recommended CLC bags to someone on a different thread. Right after I realized they’ve all gone up 15% across the board. Nylon bags, not even tools.

But ehh, I also mentioned that COVID was playing a big part and that got completely ignored. If you want to see how that works take a look at tools with smaller profit margins, the truly mass-produced stuff. You can tell to the day when overseas shipments of certain brands stopped hitting U.S. shores. And when those shipments continued.

That’s going to continue until there’s a vaccine.

Tariffs are harder to pinpoint because some tool manufacturers shifted that cost margin into other areas where it wouldn’t get noticed, like how Milwaukee started making their drill and driver bits out of crap steel but kept the cost the same. Consumables make up a huge porton of these conglomerates’ income, an extra 5% margin on them covers a lot of ground.

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#12 posted 06-23-2020 01:16 PM

Seems we do not have low tariffs with Taiwan. Especially tech and steel. I was out of date on that.

Latest reports talking about “herd immunity” do not look encouraging with immunity lasting less than 3 months. Does not bode well for a vaccine.

I found several OBJECTIVE tests on drill bits, driver bits, saber and recip blades etc. Those red ones were about the worst. Using mine up ( does not take long) and switching to higher quality.

Now, would some enterprising folks get together and start producing cast iron in this county again?

Yea, talking heads on the so-called news channels tend to have as short sighted thinking as the administration. Well, almost. You would think with their only being able to cover one story at a time 7×24, they might actually find some insight on it. Nope, just interviews with people who want their 2 minutes of fame over and over.

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#13 posted 06-23-2020 01:16 PM

Lol, now the 799 is end of life (EOL). But there’s lots of stock on hand at $350, same price I paid 18 months ago. And because the price went up 14% on a Fluke DVM it’s proof of OP’s false premise.

The entire thread started with a false premise and ran from there. Not to mention OP has actually sourced a 799 for $350 the same day the thread was started…..

-- Eric

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#14 posted 06-23-2020 05:20 PM


OP can t be trying very hard, HD and Lowes have it for $350 right now. The 779 comes from Taiwan and Mexico so all the whining about Trump and Communist China completely misinformed. So what else is new…..

- Eric

When I posted, HD was out of stock and Lowes had it for $550. And every other site (several of them) that had it listed for $350 was out of stock or had raised the price. As I posted later, HD got back in stock a couple of hours later and I bought it.

This is the wrong place to discuss politics, but if this were Twitter or Facebook I’d block you. Whining indeed.

Edit: cool, I found out that you can block people here. Much better. I didn’t want to get drawn into a fight.

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#15 posted 06-23-2020 06:14 PM

That aside, being able to crosscut up to 16” (at the ends of long boards) is going to be a joy. I won’t have to use my circular saw + clamping down a right-angle jig every time.

And I’m working on another project that uses 4×4s sliced like a loaf of bread.

This is going to be great.

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