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NickyG

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06-21-2020 02:10 AM

Topic tags/keywords: vintage table saw craftsman 113

Fairly new to woodworking, but quickly falling in love with it. My end goal is to have the precision and skills to build custom built in cabinetry, including inset doors, etc… I considered a saw guide, but feel like a table saw is necessary in the long run. I have read lots of post on the Cman 113, but wondered if the experts might weight in on the attached, currently priced at $150. Is this a good deal? I know it probably needs a few hundred in upgrades….

Also, just came across this second option:
https://offerup.com/item/detail/739497055/


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johnstoneb

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#1 posted 06-21-2020 02:36 AM

$150 is not a bad price but always try to get it for less. The fence is a POS you will need to replace it.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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#2 posted 06-21-2020 02:51 AM

The one for $300 is to much, I sold mine for $175 but had the x-acta fence. Still was not great, but better than the older stock fence. The 113 C-Man goes for around $75-125 around the Twin Cities. If the Incra V-27 is included though it is a very good price. It is the older model Incra, but new they go for $80 on sale for $65 or so. If you need the Pals for it I have a set still I think. They are $20.99 + $7.99 Shipping new. Shipping for USPS is about $8, I will sell mine for $20 which will include shipping if you want them. I never installed them. Good luck. Dan

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#3 posted 06-21-2020 03:49 AM

Those saws turn up daily in the $50-$150 range, so that one is at the upper end of reasonable. Cool looking homemade mobile base, looks to be in good condition and nothing looks missing. Some people can’t stand those cheese grater wings, but I think they re better than the stamped steel ones.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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CaptainKlutz

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#4 posted 06-21-2020 05:58 AM

Welcome to LumberJocks!

+1 $50-150 is usual range for those saws in my area.

IMHO – $150 is not ridiculous. Has blade guard, which is rare to see.
Has what looks like a Incra V27 miter gauge that retails for $70? If it has decent blade that raises the value too.

As long you take the time to ensure the width between front and back rails are withing a 0.010 with some shims, that fence can be made to work satisfactorily. The issue with those fences is when the rails are not straight to each other, it tilts the fence off perpendicular to blade. Most times the bad errors are created when the table extensions are bolted on and edges are not aligned; and rails are then not straight. Also have to remember to push the fence against the front rail, THEN clamp it down.

Best Luck.

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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ChefHDAN

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#5 posted 06-21-2020 09:26 AM

Welcome to LJ’s

If you can seriously look yourself in the mirror and KNOW that you want to achieve your end goal in the next 2 years, and plan to be producing volume, then I’d suggest you look for a much better saw in the $800 to $1200 range.

But,,, if you’re new to the TS and do not mind tearing into a saw and investing the time and money to get the 113 improved a bit and learn how to build the jigs and fixtures that will work so well on that saw than I think $100 is a decent offer to start at and $150 would not be a bad deal especially if there are some blades and other items that could be thrown in.

PLUS, when you’re ready to make the jump you’ll be able to sell the 113 pretty easily.

-- I've decided 1 mistake is really 2 opportunities to learn.. learn how to fix it... and learn how to not repeat it

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NickyG

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#6 posted 06-22-2020 12:53 PM

Thanks for the feedback everyone. Lets say I do go to the $500 to $800 range on a new saw. Are the new contractor style saws any good when compared to the vintage ones? Which would you recommend?

Delta 36-725 $599
Rigid 13A $749
Grizzly ?
Shop Fox ?

Or, is it possible to get a portable job site saw to be accurate enough for cabinetry? I do have limited space in my garage. Might be a dumb questions, but I dont want to invest in something that will not perform well in the long run.

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ChefHDAN

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#7 posted 06-22-2020 06:36 PM

The 113 will be better than ANY benchtop saw. The one you’ve put in the OP, (if still for sale) is essentially the same as my Rigid saw except a better fence,and base. If you can get that saw for $100 to $125, or even the $150 asked, you can get a new fence set up and base and be in for under $450. I don’t think there is really a huge difference, (not starting riving knife discussion) that would justifying looking at saws in the $500 to $800 range. Get the 113, put in some time and a bit of $$$ and then watch CL for what comes next. You may find that you’re happy with the 113 for most or all of what you’re using it for.

-- I've decided 1 mistake is really 2 opportunities to learn.. learn how to fix it... and learn how to not repeat it

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rockusaf

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#8 posted 06-22-2020 11:38 PM

I’ve got a 113 and replaced the POS stock fence with a VSC Tools fence with DIY rails and added a router table. All totaled I’m probably around $500 in it and while I may someday step up to a cabinet saw the 113 has done everything I’ve asked of it and the accuracy is perfectly fine.

If you do buy that saw and use it for a while and decide to upgrade you’ll probably be able to get your money back out of it when you sell it.

Rock

-- Measure Once Cuss Twice

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EEngineer

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#9 posted 06-23-2020 12:10 AM

That saw is real similar to the one I have been using since 2008. I actually used an earlier version of that fence for a while before I upgraded and, believe it or not, it was quite usable. I agree with MrUnix, I like the cast extensions much better than the stamped steel. 3HP? BS, that’s a 1HP motor – Sears was doing the same HP inflation everyone else was back then. Plenty o’ power, I routinely feed mine 4/4 cherry and black walnut with no problem.

A little cleanup of rust on the table and that looks usable right now provided the bearings are OK.

-- "Find out what you cannot do and then go do it!"

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