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Forum topic by Dan Bartlett posted 06-19-2020 03:43 PM 612 views 0 times favorited 21 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Dan Bartlett

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06-19-2020 03:43 PM

Topic tags/keywords: cabinet saw table saw new or used tablesaw

Finally moving up from my 23 year old Jet contractors saw. I can get a used PM 66 for $1500, with outfeed table, or a new Grizzly 1023, 5HP single phase for $1625

I don’t care about the router table, but wanted the 5hp motor.

I’m thinking to buy the new Grizzly…

Any thoughts?

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#1 posted 06-19-2020 04:02 PM

Currently using a General 350 because I wanted a right tilter again. But most of my adult life I used a PM 66. Love those saws, only exception is the Left tilt thing. Not a fan, but ehhh.

That said, if I (meaning me personally) had a choice between a saw with, and without a riving knife, built in. I’d always go with the RK feature.

I’d add the PM sounds like it’s overpriced, and you likely don’t really need 5HP on the Griz. For a home shop 3HP will do all you will want. 5HP does however give a lot more Tim the Toolman Taylor points, MORE POWER!!!!!! UUUHHEEGGHHt….......

For those who can't read and understand grunt....

JK :-) As I always say, your shop, your rules.

Either saw will serve you for a long time.

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#2 posted 06-19-2020 04:29 PM

What does the powermatic look like . Can you inspect it before you buy it. Out near me that would be over priced or a very clean well kept saw.

-- Aj

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#3 posted 06-19-2020 05:07 PM

Typical CL prices for 66s in the NorCal are 800-1200, so yeah, I’m +1 on Aj’s comment about it being overpriced.

I agree with Steve that you won’t need a 5HP motor, and if for some reason you do, you should probably be looking at a 12” saw.

You should also keep an eye out for 3 phase saws, which are typically less expensive than their single phase equivalents. A VFD ($200) allows you to run it on single phase power with no power loss, and replaces the motor starter. I often see Unisaws and 66s with 3 phase sit on CL for weeks even though they’re a couple hundred dollars less than single phase versions.

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#4 posted 06-19-2020 05:28 PM

I wouldn’t be chasing the 5 HP motor. I went from a 3HP Uni to a 5HP saw, ad actually wished i had stayed with a 3. The 5 HP takes a bigger circuit and cost an extra $400 (as I recall). I bought it because I could…which was a very dumb reason. For a hobbyist it doesn’t do anything better.

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#5 posted 06-19-2020 05:35 PM

As stated its higher than I’d pay for a pm66, but having owned both the 66 is a better saw than the 1023

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#6 posted 06-19-2020 05:37 PM

Here’s the current pricing

G1063RL – 3hp – with 40” x 27 table – $1495
G1063RLX – 3hp – with 48×27 table & router mount – $1550
G1063RLWX – 5hp with 48×27 table & router mount – $1625

RRRRR – I get it, I don’t need the extra hp. The garage is new and will need a new feed anyway. I will look into the phase converter option.

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ibewjon

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#7 posted 06-19-2020 05:59 PM

Of course, there may be a long wait for the griz if it is not in stock. Other posts here telling that story.

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Dan Bartlett

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#8 posted 06-19-2020 08:56 PM


What does the powermatic look like . Can you inspect it before you buy it. Out near me that would be over priced or a very clean well kept saw.

- Aj2

It’s in decent shape. It’s on a massive commercial table

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#9 posted 06-19-2020 09:21 PM

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#10 posted 06-19-2020 09:34 PM

Looks great if it were to come with a good assortment of blades it starting to look like a great saw. Possibly the last one you’ll ever need.
Prices have seemed to go up during the stay at home orders out in my area. It’s a sellers market right now esp for anything made In the USA.
Since it is a used older machine do your diligence and check it carefully. Raise and lower the blade does it stay square to the table. If the seller doesn’t mind take the blade off and look at the condition of the arbor. Bring a flashlight.
Good Luck

-- Aj

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Holbs

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#11 posted 06-19-2020 11:47 PM

I’ll make it official: go for the Powermatic 66. Though Grizzly is highly respected, it does compare to the PM66 as a reference for a reason :)
It’s probably gone already!
If you do get it… buy new belts, tear it down and put new bearings everywhere. Any used cabinet I buy gets the “treatment” like I did with my Delta Unisaw.

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#12 posted 06-20-2020 12:01 AM

Warranty, warranty ,warranty…..

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#13 posted 06-20-2020 12:02 AM

PM 66 all day. you never hear of a lack of quality with pm. I am lucky enough to own a piece of their equipment and am sold for life

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#14 posted 06-20-2020 12:32 AM

I have never had the opportunity to use a PM but from all I know that have them they are very good machines.

I recently purchased a 1023 (replaced Jet JTAS10). I could not be happier with this purchase.

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ibewjon

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#15 posted 06-20-2020 01:11 AM

I turn on a 1973 powermatic 90 lathe. I bought it used, after an unknown number if owners. With a good machine, warranty is less of an issue.

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