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Forum topic by SoCalWoodGal posted 06-05-2020 07:21 PM 529 views 0 times favorited 26 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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06-05-2020 07:21 PM

Topic tags/keywords: hinges cabinets range hood question

Hey folks,
Running into a problem here. I build a range hood cabinet/cover for the kitchen, and I wanted there to be an option to open it up should we ever need to do any fixing on the range hood itself.

I wrongly assumed I could just use some regular hinges I had laying around. When I tried that, the bottom of the drop down lid scraped against the front apron of the cabinet, not allowing the drop down to drop far down at all.

I’ve tried several configs with the hinges, and nothing seems to work, so I’m wondering if there’s a specific type of hinge that would allow me to keep the lid mostly flush with the angled cabinet when closed (I don’t want big gaps on the side between the lid and the cabinet), and allow me to open it without it getting stuck on that apron.

Is this a wrap around hinge? A chest hinge? Something else entirely? Ideas mucho appreciated. Thanks!

-- SoCalWoodGal http://brittanyjoyner.com/Woodworking.html; https://skl.sh/34FSP5A


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#1 posted 06-05-2020 07:41 PM

I can’t tell where the hinges are in your pictures.

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#2 posted 06-05-2020 07:43 PM

They would go where circled

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#3 posted 06-05-2020 07:48 PM

piano hinge with magnets at the top?

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#4 posted 06-05-2020 07:51 PM

A piano hinge would give me the same problem as the normal hinge I was using. If I attached it to the inside of the apron and the inside of the drop down lid, the lid won’t open more than an inch or so before the bottom of the lid gets stuck on the apron. If I attached the hinge instead to the top of the apron rather than the inside, it would make the lid jut out from the cabinet and leave a weird gap on the side between the lid and the cabinet when closed.

-- SoCalWoodGal http://brittanyjoyner.com/Woodworking.html; https://skl.sh/34FSP5A

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#5 posted 06-05-2020 08:34 PM

Most standard hinges are generally meant to allow something (i.e. a cabinet door) to pivot around a specific point, i.e. the hinge pin of the hinge. Since the apron of your cabinet is recessed with respect to the “door” of your cabinet, I can see how locating hinges on the inside bottom of your door would be problematic. Having said that, you might check out some of huge variety of concealed euro hinges. Some varieties are pretty amazing in how they seem to navigate odd door positions. I don’t know of one specific make & model off hand, but Rockler’s website offers quite a few options. Check it out.

Another option would be to locate a standard hinge on the outside of the cabinet “door”. You’d probably have to add some small blocks to the apron for one side of the hinge to mount to. But I realize that this would be aesthetically less appealing.

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#6 posted 06-05-2020 09:45 PM

We typical use Keku clips in this application.

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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#7 posted 06-05-2020 10:06 PM



We typical use Keku clips in this application.

- DS


Woh! I’ve never heard or seen of such a thing. Fascinating.

-- SoCalWoodGal http://brittanyjoyner.com/Woodworking.html; https://skl.sh/34FSP5A

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#8 posted 06-05-2020 11:38 PM

There’s definitely hinges that will work but the pin would have to be exposed on the front from where I’m sitting. Magnets both top and bottom would provide a “hingeless” solution though.

-- Darrel

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#9 posted 06-05-2020 11:48 PM

Is this going to the ceiling?

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#10 posted 06-06-2020 12:52 AM



Is this going to the ceiling?

- LeeRoyMan


Yes. Going to ceiling. I decided to just screw it in and cover with removable wood plugs.

-- SoCalWoodGal http://brittanyjoyner.com/Woodworking.html; https://skl.sh/34FSP5A

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#11 posted 06-06-2020 01:28 AM

Originally invented to secure speaker panels on entertainment centers housing those giant rear-projector screens of the 1980’s, Keku clips have found many new uses for seldomly used removeable panels.

They are selling on Amazon for $5 plus, however, a wholesale account at Hafele gets them for under $0.50 a set.

I spec’d a custom hood just today with four sets to secure the panel, yet provide the vent installer access to secure the ducting through the cabinet.

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#12 posted 06-06-2020 01:41 AM

How good do they hold, or maybe a better question is how hard are they to pull a panel back off?

Do you know, off hand, what kind of weight they will hold.
Not to worry,
I’ll go to Hafele and find them, just wondering if you could give me an idea with your experience using them.
Thanks

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#13 posted 06-06-2020 01:53 AM

They are very sturdy and made of reinforced thermoset plastic.
You have to intentionally try to get them open.
There’s no chance they fall off by accident.

There is a locking tab that grabs the hook and holds tight. They are intended to hold larger panels.

They are NOT intended for routine access, but, are perfect for any type of removeable service panel enclosure.

We usually keep a couple of dozen sets on the shelf and use them up quite regularly.

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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#14 posted 06-06-2020 02:27 AM

Glad you figured it SoCal (hope you don’t mind me hijacking your thread a little)

Thanks DS,
I’m covering a 16’ wide wall with 1 1/2×3 Walnut slats (engineered, not solid) spaced 1/2” apart.
There is an 8’ section that goes across a window,
I’m going to make that in 3 removable sections. (need access to motorized blinds)
I was going to screw each section into a cleat, but I’m thinking this may be a better solution.
Looks like they will fit into a 1/2” space? I’ll report back if I use them.
I might get some from Hafele just to check them out, and just to have some on hand.
Thanks

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#15 posted 06-06-2020 02:38 AM

They make a couple different versions for slightly different applications.

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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