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05-31-2020 09:37 AM

Topic tags/keywords: router bit routers question

I’m new to using a router and for my first real project I’m creating a new leaf for our dining room table. I can’t seem to find the right bit to match the table. Anybody know where I can find this?

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#1 posted 05-31-2020 01:02 PM

Not enough info in your post.

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#2 posted 05-31-2020 01:13 PM

It is hard to tell from you pictures but it doesn’t really look like a standard router bit to me. They may have used a shaper to get that profile. A picture that shows the profile looking down the length my better show the profile. It may require you to use 2 or more bits to do it in multiple passes? Are the black lines just painted or burned on or is there a slight coves or groove there too?

And for future reference, it easier on us and probably you to simply upload the pictures directly to lumberjocks rather than post them to Photobucket and link to it. PB blurs and puts a banner on the image which makes them hard to read and requires us to click to get a good look at the images. Welcome to Lumberjocks!

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#3 posted 05-31-2020 03:20 PM



It is hard to tell from you pictures but it doesn t really look like a standard router bit to me. They may have used a shaper to get that profile. A picture that shows the profile looking down the length my better show the profile. It may require you to use 2 or more bits to do it in multiple passes? Are the black lines just painted or burned on or is there a slight coves or groove there too?

And for future reference, it easier on us and probably you to simply upload the pictures directly to lumberjocks rather than post them to Photobucket and link to it. PB blurs and puts a banner on the image which makes them hard to read and requires us to click to get a good look at the images. Welcome to Lumberjocks!

- Lazyman

I was thinking it might be two bits at first then as I was searching throw what seemed like hundreds or bits I saw some that were somewhat close so I was hoping I might get lucky. The black part is just paint I haven’t sanded out. They appear to be in slight coves that are barely noticeable.

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#4 posted 05-31-2020 03:22 PM

Hope these help a little more. It’s hard to get the camera to focus perfectly.

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#5 posted 05-31-2020 05:38 PM

I can see the profile in the last pictures. Unless you have a bit custom ground you may have to use two or more in succession to get the profile you want…..including some hand shaping/sanding if necessary.

You might be able to make your own by grinding and filing a square bit to shape. Of course it will have to be a steel bit not a carbide.

Last resort is to carve, filing and sanding it by hand. With a small amount needed for a new table leaf it shouldn’t be too much work or time.

-- Les B, Oregon

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#6 posted 05-31-2020 07:03 PM

That looks sort of custom to me. If the table is really old, it may have originally been done with a molding plane using scratch stock. Your best bet may be to use a bit to get close using a roundover, ogee or chamfer bit just to reduce the amount of stock you have to remove manually and then make a custom molding cutter using some scratch stock. You will either have to make a holder/plane for it or buy one. I’ve never used a moulding plane myself but perhaps someone will chime in that has. You should be able to find tutorials online for making your own cutters from scratch stock but you basically cut and file the profile you want (its a negative of the desired profile) and just fine tune it until it matches the existing profile.

BTW, having never done it myself, I am not certain whether it is better or worse to use a router to remove some of the material before using the molding plane.

EDIT: If possible, don’t cut the width of the leaf until after you have put the profile on the edge. That way any blowout or chip out you get at the end of the cut can be cut off when finally cut to the final width.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#7 posted 05-31-2020 08:23 PM

To me it looks like they used some form of veining bit in a pin router, made 2 passes to get the double profile.
Just speculation on my part.

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#8 posted 05-31-2020 08:48 PM

Well this is not the right bit. But maybe in the right direction.
Like you said maybe two bits.
Double cove and bead, and then a round over?
https://www.toolstoday.com/v-6040-49558.html

Most likely a custom shaper profile. Or what Lazyman says.. If its really old it will be a plane or scratch stock work.
Are you trying to repair, or build all new?

-- John

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#9 posted 05-31-2020 08:51 PM

Thanks everyone. I had a feeling I was not going to get lucky and find a perfect match but at least I get to experiment with the router and work on a new skill. Wish me luck I’ll post the final results if I can get it close.

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#10 posted 05-31-2020 09:20 PM

Might have found it. Need to take some final measurements but thank you again everyone!

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#11 posted 05-31-2020 10:59 PM

Look at woodline. They gave a couple bits that may be close to what you need. They are always helpful when I call. You may be able to send them a tracing of your profile they could match to one of their bits. Good luck with the project. I have many profiles in my old home to match. Always an adventure.

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#12 posted 06-01-2020 04:59 AM

Looks like the Whiteside #3302 table edge profile bit https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=whiteside+3302&qpvt=whiteside+3302&FORM=IGRE

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#13 posted 06-01-2020 10:38 AM

The proportions don’t really look the same to me and that inside corner is not as crisp as it would be with either of those bits, though it is tough to say just from pictures.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#14 posted 06-01-2020 12:53 PM

It would originally have been done on a shaper with a set of custom knives. Easy to do if you have a shaper, not so if you have a router.

Your best bet is to find a router bit that is close and it likely will take mutiple profiles and passes.

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