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Forum topic by Derrick posted 05-28-2020 04:09 AM 1450 views 0 times favorited 49 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Derrick

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05-28-2020 04:09 AM

Hello,

My wife recently allowed me to purchase my retirement gift(a few months early). I sold off my craftsman 113/T2 combo for a nice profit, and made room for my “forever saw”.

Grizzly was having a sale, so I opted for the G1023RLW https://www.grizzly.com/products/Grizzly-10-3-HP-240V-Cabinet-Table-Saw-with-Built-in-Router-Table/G1023RLW. For what I do/aspire to do it seems like more than enough. On top of that, it has the router table extension. In my tiny garage, I don’t have room for a separate router table.

I searched and found a few rumblings about the fence on the 1023, so I plead my case for an Incra TS-LS 32” setup, and a Triton 3-1/4 HP router to mount below the table.

The setup seemed perfect for my space. The problem is that everything is on backorder.

The Incra isn’t a must have at this moment, but now that I’ve sold my table saw, I’m pretty bummed that the 1023 is so far out. I call grizzly once a week to see if there is any update, but mid July is the best answer I’ve been given. They do however have plenty of G0690’s in stock https://www.grizzly.com/products/Grizzly-10-3HP-220V-Cabinet-Table-Saw-with-Riving-Knife/G0690. Similar in price, but lacking a router extension.

The extension is a luxury. To this point, most of my time with any router has been a trim router. Just simple rounding over edges.

I’m not seeing much other than the G0690 in the price range I already paid.

My question is: Do I just wait for my order to be filled, or do I go with a G0690 or something else in that price range(if one exists)? Normally I love the used market, but in this case I want new.

It looks like I’d have to come up with a different plan on the router extension, and that would definitely put me well over what I’ve already paid. Not a deal breaker, but it would likely ad more time to the wait.

What do you think the best option is?

Thank you.

Derrick


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#1 posted 05-28-2020 04:23 AM

if you dont have any projects that gotta get done now wait for what you want and works best for you or you’ll always say to yourself.god i shoulda waited.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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Derrick

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#2 posted 05-28-2020 04:27 AM

I’m just frustrated and wondering if the grass is greener anywhere else. I’m not seeing anything sub $2k that gets me close to what the 1023rlw has.

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Fred Hargis

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#3 posted 05-28-2020 10:19 AM

...just need to be patient. It will be worth the wait. It will still beat your retirement date.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#4 posted 05-28-2020 10:27 AM

I noticed a lot of tools were “sold out” available may-june. I wonder if it reflects the anual “who builds what” and batch size from the handful of actual manufactures in China. I am sure they are not on a continuous production line, but batched a couple times a year.

I am super happy with my Harvey band saw. I see a couple folks have picked up their table saws and seem very happy. I am seriously considering one myself. They are one of the actual Chinese OEMs.

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#5 posted 05-28-2020 10:34 AM

Start sharpening tool and organizing the space for it and running power etc. You are less than two months form your forever saw, just wait it out.

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toolie

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#6 posted 05-28-2020 11:28 AM

Retirement gift? The only truly scarce resource is TIME. Go with the 690 and get on with your hobby and your life.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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#7 posted 05-28-2020 02:34 PM

I’ll always wait for the best option. Especially if it’s only a couple months. You’ll have the machine for orders of magnitude longer. Don’t settle.

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#8 posted 05-28-2020 02:50 PM

IIRC the G1023 saw is made in Taiwan while the G690 is from China, just for reference. I have an older G1023SL which I’ve had for several years. The fence looks to be a Biesmeyer clone, the only complaint I have on the fence is it should be taller. I got around that by making a fence extension. Mine came with a splitter, which I replaced with a rising one. Same thing with the blade guard, I did not like the one that came with the saw so I designed and made my own and it works well.
Knowing what I know about the saw, I’d be inclined to wait for what I would consider the good one.

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#9 posted 05-28-2020 03:22 PM

Lots of stuff is going to be hard to get for a while. Even stuff made in country, isn’t made and stocked for a long time anymore. JIT ( Just In Time )is the way we produce almost everything. And a lot of the parts used are produced overseas. Until most of the companies worldwide are up and running you probably will find you are going to have to wait on an order. Most of the warehouses are bare, and parts are scarce right now to assemble more.

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#10 posted 05-28-2020 03:27 PM



...just need to be patient. It will be worth the wait. It will still beat your retirement date.

- Fred Hargis

Agree…..

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#11 posted 05-28-2020 03:38 PM

I would wait since you picked it first. The other saw will feel like second place. I just hope the Grizzly estimate is accurate you they do not keep pushing it back.

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Derrick

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#12 posted 05-28-2020 03:40 PM



I would wait since you picked it first. The other saw will feel like second place. I just hope the Grizzly estimate is accurate you they do not keep pushing it back.

- Redoak49

That’s what I’m worried about too.

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Derrick

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#13 posted 05-28-2020 05:11 PM


I noticed a lot of tools were “sold out” available may-june. I wonder if it reflects the anual “who builds what” and batch size from the handful of actual manufactures in China. I am sure they are not on a continuous production line, but batched a couple times a year.

I am super happy with my Harvey band saw. I see a couple folks have picked up their table saws and seem very happy. I am seriously considering one myself. They are one of the actual Chinese OEMs.

- tvrgeek

This is intriguing to me. I had seen Harvey on a video on YouTube, but I didn’t think much of it. I was watching the video for other reasons.

Anyhow, it looks like Grizzly’s 0690 is similar to a bunch of manufacturers’ 3hp cabinet saws. Harvey being one of them. I found a post on reddit stating that. https://www.reddit.com/r/woodworking/comments/5fd2we/harvey_table_saw_experience/. Here’s the model I’m talking about: https://www.harveywoodworking.com/products/c300-30-10-cabinet-table-saw

Now it looks like when it’s all said and done, they could get me the equivalent of the G0690 for a little less than what I paid for the 1023rlw. Of course this isn’t apples to apples because id still be short a $295 router wing.

I just don’t know Harvey’s track record. Grizzly’s is very cut&dry. Their customer service seems to be top notch. That is hard to look past for this kind of money. Plus, they’re Bellingham shop is just north of me. I do a lot of work in that area, so I’m up their a few times a month.

Has anyone actually dealt with Harvey’s customer service?

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Bob5103

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#14 posted 05-28-2020 06:25 PM

I have had the G0690 for 10+ yrs and it has been a great saw. For several years I had this router extension. When I moved to my current shop I converted the router extension into a standalone router table, because I had the space. Grizzly sells several RT extensions so you have different options.
Like you I live close to the Bellingham store, so just go up and see what is available. One thing to keep in mind is that none of the extension tables have router inserts, (that I know of), so that limits your router to a plunge router. I have the Triton in mine.

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Derrick

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#15 posted 05-28-2020 06:36 PM

Yep. There’s a member on here that if I remember correctly went for the 1023, but ended up with a 0690 and a Triton plunge. I think there may have been an issue with the triton plunge. Maybe a plastic gear or something, but it has since been fixed with an update.

The 1023rlw comes with the H7507 wing https://www.grizzly.com/products/Grizzly-18-x-27-Router-Extension-Table-for-Table-Saw/H7507. It’s not as fancy as the one you posted, it would suit me just fine.

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