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Toasty

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05-27-2020 08:42 PM

So I am sure many have asked this same question, but I have not had good luck searching old posts. So I will ask again, and get opinions.

With the interest rates being low, it seems to be a good time to build a shop. How big? What would your dream shop have?

Currently, my tools include:

cabinet table saw with router table
Lathe
Miter saw
14” bandsaw
Tiny jointer (hoping to upgrade that with a new shop)
Box planer
Bench and hand tools
Future dust collection system

The shop will probably be used for storage of cars and lawnmower as well as be used for car repair and maybe a little metal work. You know the kind of place where the kids come to have all there stuff fixed and maintained.


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#1 posted 05-27-2020 09:32 PM

the answer is probably “50% bigger than what you’re currently thinking”

honestly, a 3 car garage at a minimum given all you’re talking about doing with the space

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#2 posted 05-27-2020 10:52 PM

I was initially thinking something like 30×50, but 25×25 would probably be big enough. I have a meeting with a builder next week, but was just wondering what others have done.

And you are right, 50% bigger than what I think it needs to be. I know the space will eventually be filled.

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#3 posted 05-27-2020 11:08 PM

Don’t do an odd size such as 25X25. Use 2ft or 4ft increments. Lumber size works out better with less waste. Do 26X26 or 24X26, etc.

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#4 posted 05-27-2020 11:10 PM

30×50 sounds closer to what your gonna need,25×25 is gonna be way too small.no matter how big you make it it will always fill up.like they say go big or go home.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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#5 posted 05-28-2020 12:24 AM

I have a 30×33 garage with a 10/12 pitch with a 20’ dormer. The upstairs has a 1 bedroom apartment for family visits.
My wife gets 1 bay I get the rest. You may want to consider a bathroom if it is detached. I have one it is a must for me. I heat with a 50000 btu bigmaxx natural gas heater. Ther is a picture of my garage in my workshop page.

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#6 posted 05-28-2020 12:27 AM



I have a 30×33 garage with a 10/12 pitch with a 20 dormer. The upstairs has a 1 bedroom apartment for family visits.
My wife gets 1 bay I get the rest. You may want to consider a bathroom if it is detached. I have one it is a must for me. I heat with a 50000 btu bigmaxx natural gas heater. Ther is a picture of my garage in my workshop page.

- Woodmaster1


i second the bathroom idea,the wife appreciates it.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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#7 posted 05-28-2020 01:04 AM

pottz and woodmster, You each have nice shops. I looked at the posted pictures.

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#8 posted 05-28-2020 01:37 AM

I have a dedicated 24×18 shop with just about everything you have. It’s a bit cramped once I start working on a project. I have a friend who is always saying “if big is good, bigger is better”.

-- Dave

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#9 posted 05-28-2020 01:50 AM

My shop is 26×66, and wish it were 40×60. Shop is 26×50, 16×26 is storage, DC, air compressor, and tire machine, lumber storage along the wall, 4×9 pallet rack for ply. Not enough room to store finished projects. Sometimes people are not ready when their projects are finished. And I need the stuff out to make room for the next project.

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#10 posted 05-28-2020 02:16 AM

I also would not do 25ft. Lumber can come in lengths up to 16 ft. While it is normally not used in that length, it’s very cumbersome working it up in a 25ft building.

One thing people always forget to plan for is an area to finish. A finish room would be where I would start.

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#11 posted 05-28-2020 04:05 AM

At LEAST two stalls more than the number of cars parked in it at any time.

Replace your tiny jointer and lunchbox planer with a combination jointer/planer (over/under) 12” or bigger; cheaper than comparable separates.

-- Andy - Arlington TX

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#12 posted 05-28-2020 04:17 AM

oh another thing go at least with 10’ ceiling height,even 12’,i was working with 12’ boards last weekend and 8’ ceilings would have been a pita.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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#13 posted 05-28-2020 12:21 PM

When I built a garage, ( not my shop), it was alot cheaper to go 24’ wide and extend the length. Trusses over 24’ rise in price quickly. 24’ is a good width for two cars, and wall off the shop area for cheaper heating and cooling. My shop is 16’ added to a 24×28 garage. I am always wishing I had added 4 more feet, but even if I had, I would want 4 more, and more….

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#14 posted 05-28-2020 01:18 PM

It’s always been my opinion that a rectangular shop is more efficient than a square one. I’m not sure why, I have just always thought that. I also think that for a 1-man operation, 30×48 or so is a good size. Do go with a >=10’ ceiling. I worked in a 40×60 shop with 1-2 other guys, and it got cramped at times, but worked out fine.

-- Pete

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#15 posted 05-28-2020 06:48 PM

ibewjon, that is a solid idea. I will ask them what the difference in cost is between 32’ wide and 24’ wide. Then just make it a little longer.

PPK has a good point too, a rectangle would have more wall space for the same area. As long as there is enough room in the middle to work, extra room in the middle of the shop may be just wasted on more space between machines. Granted there needs to be room to work, but shelf and counter space for storage is nice. I would guess that a rectangular shop may help with work flow.

In general, I was thinking about 10’ height, maybe 16’. I know the builder will recommend 16’, you know for that eventual 5th wheel trailer I will never buy. I am in the country, so if I go 16’, maybe someone with tall equipment may be more interested in the place if I ever sell. Really, that will all come down to how much difference there is in cost.

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