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Forum topic by Noahkix posted 05-10-2020 12:59 AM 715 views 0 times favorited 44 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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05-10-2020 12:59 AM

Topic tags/keywords: planer table saw jointer novice question milling shaping joining finishing rustic

Hey lumber people,

Fairly new to woodworking but would love to have a power tool to help me prepare rough lumber for projects at a quicker pace. I have some experience using a planer, but after seeing videos of jointers, feel like it may be more useful and versatile.

I also don’t have a table saw yet, which I imagine trumps both the planer and jointer in the ‘need to have’ category of tools. But assuming i DID have a table saw – what do y’all think my next purchase should be?

For additional background, i’ve been working with just pallet wood lately. Reasoning behind that is because I can get loads of it for free, and i figured it’s smart to practice on free wood before beginning to buy nice, harder woods. A couple of my projects attached! (tool chest, step stools, vinyl record holder)

Would love any guidance and advice!
thanks folks,
Noah

Chest – https://ibb.co/N3jS7Vj
Chest inside – https://ibb.co/fXCp6nh
Record holder – https://ibb.co/z7GsmwQ
Table – https://ibb.co/kK4sMBZ

-- - Noah


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#1 posted 05-10-2020 01:52 AM

Planer and TS will get you S4S. Jointer is good for warped lumber, but personally I select straight lumber instead of pretzels.

Others will insist a jointer is mandatory, but personally I’ve never noticed the lack.

-- The hump with the stump and the pump!

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#2 posted 05-10-2020 02:06 AM

If you had a tablesaw a planer would be the next step.

-- Dave

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#3 posted 05-10-2020 02:27 AM

I would agree with Madmark and Dave. With a good tablesaw and planner you won’t really need a joiner. My 2 cents worth world be to first invest in a good tablesaw.

Chris

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#4 posted 05-10-2020 02:28 AM

For the stuff I saw that you built I don’t see the need for a jointer. If your plan was to use it on pallet wood that’s a bad plan.
Some woodworkers do fine without a jointer.

Good Luck

-- Aj

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#5 posted 05-10-2020 02:38 AM

Planer, and then Jointer. You do need both. You can work around not having a jointer with a planer sled, but it’s way easier to use a jointer.

And for Madmark’s smartass comment about buying select straight lumber, most of us do as well. Wood moves.

Plus, you can buy rough lumber for way cheaper than you can already surfaced.

-- The quality of one's woodworking is directly related to the amount of flannel worn.

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#6 posted 05-10-2020 04:01 AM

If you can afford it, get a combo… Smaller footprint in the workshop than individuals and only 1 set of blades (though helical is recommended) to sharpen… If you’re serious into woodworking and can scrape up the shekels, it’s a decision you wont regret down the track…

And when it comes to pallet wood… highly recommend investing in a reliable nail finder and never pick the stuff on the ground potentially impregnated with stones/dirt/sand. Start from the 2nd. or 3rd. stack up.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#7 posted 05-10-2020 04:14 AM



Planer and TS will get you S4S. Jointer is good for warped lumber, but personally I select straight lumber instead of pretzels.

Others will insist a jointer is mandatory, but personally I ve never noticed the lack.

- Madmark2

Never in my whole 50 years of woodworking have I walk out of a lumber yard with wood that couldn’t be substantially improved by using a jointer before running it through planer. I don’t know where you get this flat lumber but it eludes me.

That being said, I’d buy the planer first but would never skip bury the jointer ASAP after the planer

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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AlaskaGuy

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#8 posted 05-10-2020 04:15 AM

For the OP, see my post to Madmark2. Just another opinion.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#9 posted 05-10-2020 04:20 AM

A planer with get you equal thickness thought-out your stock but it will not take out twist and bows or crooked edges.
Get a jointer as soon as you can after the planer.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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Madmark2

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#10 posted 05-10-2020 04:27 AM

TS takes out bows and crooked edges. Planer takes out cup & crown. Twist? See my comments above.

I was taught to eyeball the edges of lumber at an early age. If I can’t find straight (un-twisted) stock I shop somewhere else.

Why would you buy twisted, bowed, cupped, and crooked lumber in the first place? For the sheer joy of reducing a crooked 2×12 into a straight 1×2? In my shop we call that stuff kindling.

-- The hump with the stump and the pump!

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Rich

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#11 posted 05-10-2020 04:40 AM


TS takes out bows and crooked edges. Planer takes out cup & crown. Twist? See my comments above.

- Madmark2

The table saw takes out bows? How?

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#12 posted 05-10-2020 05:12 AM

Personally if I worked a lot with pallet wood I would get some kind of hand held metal detector. You obviously need the tablesaw, a planer. The jointer if you like.

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#13 posted 05-10-2020 05:26 AM

I used to think like the jointer nay-Sayers for quite a few years….........until I got one. Now I’ll never go back.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#14 posted 05-10-2020 05:38 AM

Some shops had them when I worked for them and some didn’t. It’s never been a priority tool in my shop. I liked having one when I built furniture for a living. If I need a straight flat edge I n just use the router table…it’s already eating space in the shop. Now if one pops up at a price I can’t pass up I’ll find a way to fit it in…

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#15 posted 05-10-2020 05:47 AM


The table saw takes out bows? How?
- Rich

First you cut off the string… Then…

I still recommend the combo.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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