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PresidentsDad

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05-06-2020 05:45 AM

Hey all,
I’m trying to design a planer cabinet and I would like to have a supporting shelf that pulls out on the outfeed end to catch lumber if I can’t get around fast enough. I found a plan on Rockler’s website, but it calls for a heavy duty 34 inch drawer slide and those appear to be about $110 to $170. This will not be used every day and if it is a little clunky in operation, that is ok. It does need to stay pretty flat though as the roller on the end of the shelf will be calibrated to the planer’s outfeed table height. Looking for an alternative to the metal/ball bearing drawer slides. Thoughts/Suggestions?


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Walker

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#1 posted 05-06-2020 05:54 AM

Google “wooden drawer slides” or ” DIY drawer slides”, click on images, and you’ll get lots of ideas. You can add wax to increase smoothness if needed. I prefer low friction tape. I can’t really picture what your describing though. Do you mean like the extensions on a jobsite miter saw? Can you add a leg for support to keep it parallel to the planer bed?

-- ~Walker

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#2 posted 05-06-2020 07:44 AM

It’s a shelf that is mounted underneath where the planer is mounted and has a roller on the end so that if you are planing a long board it can hold the end until you get around to that side. That is why it cannot have any sag as it’s matched to the outfeed table. You can extend or retract the shelf in order to match the length of what you are planing. I’ve googled a number of home made drawer slides, but they all seem to sag slightly when opened. Also, I think the outfeed stand support might be a pain (but maybe not). Open to all ideas before I start cutting. :)

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#3 posted 05-06-2020 10:03 AM

How about one that pivots or folds up instead of pulls out? A design that pulls out 34” to support boards would have to be pretty heavy duty and is going to be costly. There are a bunch of fold up designs for table saws outfeed support that you might look at

If the slide out design is absolutely needed, the only other idea I can think of is to have supports that go all the way to the ground with wheels on them. Basically this idea from Woodsmith but for the outfeed instead of the planer itself.

Then, you could use any type of DIY drawer slides you can find. Only problem may be that the outfeed on the planer needs to be aligned pretty well to prevent snipe, etc., so imperfections in the floor could make that a little difficult to adjust but as long as it is always sitting in the same spot when extended, you may be able to dial it with only minor tweaks each time you use it?

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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PresidentsDad

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#4 posted 05-06-2020 03:11 PM

@Lazyman
Well..I do need to make a tablesaw outfeed table as well, so perhaps I can combine these two idea. Thanks for the info.

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#5 posted 05-06-2020 07:20 PM

You could make your planer cabinet at the right height that it feeds out onto the table saw. That’s how I’ve got mine set up.

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#6 posted 05-06-2020 07:47 PM

its funny you are looking for 34 inch drawer slides, I have been looking for 36 inch drawer slides all week, here are my results.

https://www.procabinethardware.com/TOUCH-Full-Extension-Ball-Bearing-Slides-36-Inch

https://www.ovisonline.com/36-Heavy-Duty-Drawer-Slides-Zinc-FR-5609-P2590.aspx (they have some other ones that are in stock, they are a bit pricier)

there is also a company called repon, they are from Taiwan, I am in conversation with them right now trying to get a quote, I will let you know what I here

I am building deep cabinets so I dont have a choice, I agree with the others who say you should make it flip up, way cheaper and probably more stable to boot.

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PresidentsDad

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#7 posted 05-06-2020 09:38 PM

I’ve looked at the Ovis ones. They appear to be enough weight bearing. I did some checking and if I planned a 12” wide 12/4 board 16 feet long, that would be (depending on the species) anywhere from 150-225 pounds. I can’t afford wood that would be heavier than that anyway. :)


its funny you are looking for 34 inch drawer slides, I have been looking for 36 inch drawer slides all week, here are my results.

https://www.procabinethardware.com/TOUCH-Full-Extension-Ball-Bearing-Slides-36-Inch

https://www.ovisonline.com/36-Heavy-Duty-Drawer-Slides-Zinc-FR-5609-P2590.aspx (they have some other ones that are in stock, they are a bit pricier)

there is also a company called repon, they are from Taiwan, I am in conversation with them right now trying to get a quote, I will let you know what I here

I am building deep cabinets so I dont have a choice, I agree with the others who say you should make it flip up, way cheaper and probably more stable to boot.

- squazo


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#8 posted 05-06-2020 10:57 PM

Have used many cases of the Fulterer drawer slides. They are one of the most affordable heavy duty slide brands available. The #5210 200lb rated slides are cheaper than big names 100lb rated slides, and mount in same 1/2” per side. If you catch woodworker.com when drawer slides go on sale, they are bargain sold by the case. ;-)

Note when reading the weight ratings of slides, can not assume a 100lb slide will hold 100lbs at very end of full extension on longest one sold. The cheat and quote the capability of shortest slide, evenly loaded across the length. The longer slides have derating factors buried in specifications. :-( The 5609 above are 225lb class, but longest length is only rated 150lb. The Fulterer mfg site has all the specification sheets available for download to help you learn more.
As example, built some SUV slide out drawers with 46 in slides, and had to use 500lb rated slides. The 500lb model was more like ~400lb actual? If you need to support a lot of weight, the Hettich KA3320 and Fulterer 5400 tend to be lowest cost based on my shopping records.
BTW – Large slides are seldom sold by case. So prices tend to fluctuate based on volume each site sells. Have a local truck box OEM in town, and the retail store sells replacement parts. I can walk in and get 5400 slides from them, cheaper than any online source? Though none of the big drawer slides are cheap. :-(

Best Luck.

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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PresidentsDad

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#9 posted 05-07-2020 03:39 AM

Good point. I’ll take a look at them.


Have used many cases of the Fulterer drawer slides. They are one of the most affordable heavy duty slide brands available. The #5210 200lb rated slides are cheaper than big names 100lb rated slides, and mount in same 1/2” per side. If you catch woodworker.com when drawer slides go on sale, they are bargain sold by the case. ;-)

Note when reading the weight ratings of slides, can not assume a 100lb slide will hold 100lbs at very end of full extension on longest one sold. The cheat and quote the capability of shortest slide, evenly loaded across the length. The longer slides have derating factors buried in specifications. :-( The 5609 above are 225lb class, but longest length is only rated 150lb. The Fulterer mfg site has all the specification sheets available for download to help you learn more.
As example, built some SUV slide out drawers with 46 in slides, and had to use 500lb rated slides. The 500lb model was more like ~400lb actual? If you need to support a lot of weight, the Hettich KA3320 and Fulterer 5400 tend to be lowest cost based on my shopping records.
BTW – Large slides are seldom sold by case. So prices tend to fluctuate based on volume each site sells. Have a local truck box OEM in town, and the retail store sells replacement parts. I can walk in and get 5400 slides from them, cheaper than any online source? Though none of the big drawer slides are cheap. :-(

Best Luck.

- CaptainKlutz


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