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HenryH20

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05-05-2020 08:43 PM

Hello all,

I am posting on behalf of my father who is a sign artist & has asked me if I knew any information regarding a CNC Machine. He would like to use a CNC Machine to cut through foam and perhaps wood as well. I’ve attached some photos of what specifications he would like. I have spent hours researching myself on CNC’s, but many of them seem like chinese off-brand miniature ones. His budget would be $1500-$1000, or of course, less. If anyone is able to assist me or point me in the right direction of a kit or prebuild, I would greatly appreciate any help I can get whatsoever.

Thanks!

(Photos—https://imgur.com/a/XSzCQnp)


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#1 posted 05-06-2020 03:58 PM

I can only see on photo. It is sideways and I can’t see anything about specifications in it.

If you can provide specs, I may be able to help.

-- Grant Wilkinson, Ottawa ON

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HenryH20

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#2 posted 05-06-2020 05:25 PM



I can only see on photo. It is sideways and I can t see anything about specifications in it.

If you can provide specs, I may be able to help.

- gwilki

Hi, I apoligize. After a few days of posting around CNC Forums, one suggested we go with the Shapoko 3. Do you know by chance if it is any good with cutting high density foam? We’re looking to purchase the XXL or the XL if we can find the right bits and all of that for it. Any suggestions are appreciated.

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#3 posted 05-06-2020 06:23 PM

Any CNC will cut foam. The important things are the bit you choose and the feeds and speeds.

Here is an example of a test that I did.

I’m quite new to the world of CNC, so I use rigid foam to practice with. It’s easy to cut, inexpensive and easy on bits.

I don’t have a Shapeoko, but I visit their forum often. It looks like a very good group, offering lots of advice.

-- Grant Wilkinson, Ottawa ON

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#4 posted 05-06-2020 06:58 PM

I would say with that budget carving would be painfully slow. You may want to consider outsourcing your CNC work. I would not invest in a toy. you will be disappointed.

-- nelson woodcrafters

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HenryH20

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#5 posted 05-06-2020 07:01 PM



I would say with that budget carving would be painfully slow. You may want to consider outsourcing your CNC work. I would not invest in a toy. you will be disappointed.

- dannelson

I’ve seen plenty of $200-$100 chinese toys.. I really want something that is multipurpose. I’m looking at the Shapeoko at the moment, I just need to find the right materials for it. It is so difficult to get ahold of high density foam haha.

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HenryH20

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#6 posted 05-06-2020 07:03 PM


Any CNC will cut foam. The important things are the bit you choose and the feeds and speeds.

Here is an example of a test that I did.

I m quite new to the world of CNC, so I use rigid foam to practice with. It s easy to cut, inexpensive and easy on bits.

I don t have a Shapeoko, but I visit their forum often. It looks like a very good group, offering lots of advice.

- gwilki


Thanks for the help,
I am currently looking at the Shapeoko, but as for the bits and material I am having a hard time finding the right things and where to buy them. I am completley new to CNC Machining, but am very tech-savvy, so that shouldn’t be a problem. I read that the Shapeoko is beginner-friendly, that’s why I am also considering it & their software. Any suggestions for foam cutting bits?

Also, by chance if you would know, is there a way that with a CNC, I can customize if I want it to do a “deep-cut” (rough cut, get the shapes etc) then perform a “detail-cut” (Fine out the shapes, add in careful details, etc)?

Thanks again!

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#7 posted 05-06-2020 09:24 PM

I have a 30” x 30” Sienci Longmill, made in Canada. It sells for $1500 Cdn. – or something over $1000 US. I did the masks running at 200 inches per minute. It was not painfully slow to me, but then, I have little to compare it with. At work, we are running a Biesse 5’ x 9’ machine. It is certainly faster, but then it tops out at about $150,000.

It is easy and usual to do a roughing pass and a finishing pass. Again, this is not a feature of the CNC. It is a feature of the software. You may want to look at the Vectric website. They have excellent software and many video tutorials. It’s not cheap, though.

For the masks, I used a 1/4” ball nose it with a 40% stepover to do the roughing pass and a 1/8” ballnose with a 10% stepover to do the finishing pass.

-- Grant Wilkinson, Ottawa ON

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#8 posted 05-07-2020 12:33 AM

I have a digital wood carver it works very well. The issue is the software that you will be using. I use Inkscape to do fonts and different shapes then transfer to fusion 360. I don’t have a business so I use the free personal use version. I may purchase the vectric later on but as it was said above it’s pricey. Good luck and enjoy the learning experience.

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#9 posted 05-07-2020 01:48 AM



I would say with that budget carving would be painfully slow. You may want to consider outsourcing your CNC work. I would not invest in a toy. you will be disappointed.

- dannelson


+1

-- Desert_Woodworker

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#10 posted 05-07-2020 01:57 AM

HenryH by chance what is the price of the foam that you use? (price per sq ft)

-- Desert_Woodworker

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HenryH20

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#11 posted 05-07-2020 02:01 AM



HenryH by chance what is the price of the foam that you use? (price per sq ft)

- Desert_Woodworker


I havn’t looked at any foam yet as most want you to buy foam in bulk, however I have reahced out to one independent supplier who gets the foam from General Plastics. I am looking to make sign foam to carve out and make signs for some local stores in my area. I may end up using the Shapeoko XXL to do the job, haha.

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#12 posted 05-07-2020 02:01 AM



I have a 30” x 30” Sienci Longmill, made in Canada. It sells for $1500 Cdn. – or something over $1000 US. I did the masks running at 200 inches per minute. It was not painfully slow to me, but then, I have little to compare it with. At work, we are running a Biesse 5 x 9 machine. It is certainly faster, but then it tops out at about $150,000.

It is easy and usual to do a roughing pass and a finishing pass. Again, this is not a feature of the CNC. It is a feature of the software. You may want to look at the Vectric website. They have excellent software and many video tutorials. It s not cheap, though.

For the masks, I used a 1/4” ball nose it with a 40% stepover to do the roughing pass and a 1/8” ballnose with a 10% stepover to do the finishing pass.

- gwilki

Thanks for the help!

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HenryH20

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#13 posted 05-07-2020 02:03 AM



I have a digital wood carver it works very well. The issue is the software that you will be using. I use Inkscape to do fonts and different shapes then transfer to fusion 360. I don t have a business so I use the free personal use version. I may purchase the vectric later on but as it was said above it s pricey. Good luck and enjoy the learning experience.

- diverlloyd


If the DWC wasn’t so expensive, i’d love to get one. Shapeoko seems the most affordable, espically their XXL. Thanks for the help.

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diverlloyd

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#14 posted 05-07-2020 11:48 PM

Henry I bought mine at auction and they have treated me as if I’m the first owner. Maybe looking at used ones maybe worth it. Or call around and see if anyone has demo models for sell. No mater what you choose read up on the software everything else is easily made or replaced.

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