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MrRon

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05-04-2020 06:48 PM

Due to the covid19 Chinese response along with their stealing of intellectural property and other communist behavior, I am trying to buy American or at least non-Chinese products. I know it’s hard to find products that are not made in China, but hopefully that will change as America is making a come back in manufacturing. Hearing that 95% of our pharmaceuticals are made in China is a good reason to bring manufacturing back home. As a communist country, they could cut off all medicines. Where would that leave us? They could blackmail us at any time. Let’s face it; they are a communist dictatorship and not our friend. Their goal is world domination. We are at war with China, economically. The stronger they get could lead to world war 3. With today’s military technology, that would put us in danger of invasion on our soil. They have nuclear missiles that can reach our shores. President Trump is alerting us to the dangers China poses and no one wants to believe it could happen. Neutrality can no longer be claimed by countries. The Chinese, being very patient people have been waiting a long time for the right time to “strike”. Hopefully, I won’t be around to see that happen, but I fear for my children and their children and for the freedom loving people around the world.


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#1 posted 05-04-2020 07:16 PM

Agree with everything you’ve said. I read a book a couple months back called “Factor Man”. It’s a good read if you wanna see how China came “to power”. We basically shot our selves in the foot then handed them the loaded gun

Here is a link to get u some ideas for buying American
https://www.lumberjocks.com/topics/230593#first-new

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#2 posted 05-04-2020 07:22 PM

I agree I’ve been saying for years stop buying anything from China. I think they are trying to kill us slowly death by a thousand cuts.
They also have underestimated US.
Good Luck everyone

-- Aj

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controlfreak

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#3 posted 05-04-2020 07:43 PM

I know that a lot of manufacturing that had plants in China have already been building other plants in other parts of the world after the tariffs were imposed. Sadly I think India is the most often selected site. It really bothers me that they inserted an out clause in the just signed trade deal. It stated that they can pull out of their obligations for a pandemic.

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#4 posted 05-04-2020 08:27 PM

It won’t be an overnight manufacturing comeback, but we have to start. By making things in the USA, we can lessen the power and influence of China. When we don’t do business with China, their economy will plummet. That could result in more aggressive behavior towards their neighbors. The dems call China our “friend”. I wonder who’s side they are on.

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#5 posted 05-04-2020 08:46 PM

I’m sorry, why does “China” want to invade us? We are their biggest market.

I can’t blame them for what has happened. Our companies moved production there, got 1/10 the labor cost then never passed on the dif to us, it went into profits.

-- I always knew gun nuts where afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#6 posted 05-04-2020 08:48 PM



I agree I’ve been saying for years stop buying anything from China. I think they are trying to kill us slowly death by a thousand cuts.
They also have underestimated US.
Good Luck everyone

- Aj2


They” are our companies, and no they have our number. what are you going to do invade proctor gamble?

-- I always knew gun nuts where afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#7 posted 05-04-2020 08:58 PM

Rob were not taking about the American company’s that took advantage of the cheap labor. I’m not at least. I’m taking about the CCP. Why would I want to invade proctor and gamble they have done anything to me.

-- Aj

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#8 posted 05-04-2020 09:04 PM

Xenophobia

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#9 posted 05-04-2020 09:44 PM


Xenophobia

- Jeff


Throw in a splash of 'Yellow Peril' and this thread is gonna be a doozy….

-- “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” – Plato

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bandit571

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#10 posted 05-04-2020 09:58 PM

Years ago, it was the “Made in Japan” label….then it switched to the “Made in Taiwan” label…..

So…how about the “Made in Mexico” labels?

The Stanley No. 45 I use, is stamped as Made in Canada…Roxton Pond, QUE, CAN. with the SW logo….

China is more concerned with the entire South China Sea…..than us…

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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#11 posted 05-05-2020 01:39 AM

Every one is entitled to an opinion.

IMHO – We live in a global capitalist economy; not socialist, communist, or democratic. To think over wise means you are missing huge hunks of data.

As someone who has spent majority of his career developing off shore mfg all over Asia for various companies, I find overly generic anti-China comments misguided? Especially when they quote statements made by conservative publications that only want to create fear, and preserve their wealth at mercy of yours.

Do you know why mfg is moved to China?
1) Cheaper labor, < $2-3/hour for unskilled workers.
2) Cheaper raw materials.
3) Lower air quality standards reduce mfg cost when chemicals/solvents are involved.
4) Zero or low cost buildings & equipment, as government provides free capital loans to any business that can add revenue to China’s export cash flow. They pay off the loans with ‘normal’ business taxes.

It is as simple as: It is cheaper to be made out of America.

Chinese government giving free money to get tax revenue and over seas sales is nothing new. Remember all the competition with tax free land (etc) to land Amazon’s new head quarters, or when Elon Musk wanted to build a new Tesla factory. SSDD

In the end: Actions speak louder than words, and you vote by where you spend your money.

Every analysis of ‘Buy American’ I have seen always has same result. Rich get richer, poor get poorer, and middle class disappears. Think about that as you are asked to spend 3x more for next generation smart phone, or your $1 per tablet Ibuprofen is needed; made only in America?
No thank you.

If your word are more than ranting,
Wish you best trying to afford same quality of life, and house hold full of possessions buying American made.

Thanks for reading.

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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corelz125

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#12 posted 05-05-2020 02:24 AM

The American consumer helped build China’s economy and the corporations were happy to make even more money from them. One thing that all of us on this site know first hand. Most people would rather go to Target or Wayfair and buy some cheap junk furniture that lasts a year and throw it away and get another one. Than pay for the quality of furniture that is made by the members on here that will last a lifetime.

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Desert_Woodworker

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#13 posted 05-05-2020 04:48 AM

In order for the American automobile companies to begin production, they will need Mexico to open up as well- stay tuned…

-- Desert_Woodworker

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#14 posted 05-05-2020 04:55 AM

IMO I remember when Nixon went to China, then more expansion, oh well.

-- Desert_Woodworker

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#15 posted 05-05-2020 05:00 AM



Xenophobia

- Jeff

One must remember that the

Capitalist does not discriminate due to race.

-- Desert_Woodworker

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