Forum topic by Nirav | posted 05-03-2020 01:30 AM | 734 views | 0 times favorited | 27 replies | ![]() |
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05-03-2020 01:30 AM |
Topic tags/keywords: joinery skill tool question trick tip jig Hi all, |
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#1 posted 05-03-2020 03:19 AM |
You don’t say what tools you have to work with. If you have a table saw or band saw, you should have no problem ripping 9’ strips. Even with a circular saw (skill saw), using a long straight edge guide strip, it should be doable. |
#2 posted 05-03-2020 03:26 AM |
Sorry, my fault. I have a table saw, band saw, circular saw, jig saw. I just don’t have a great outfeed for the table saw. I thought about the track saw, but obviously don’t have a 9ft track. How do you control the 9 ft long board on the table saw to get a consistent width? How do you prevent it from wandering away from the fence as you feed such a long board? Is there a particular way to set it up? |
#3 posted 05-03-2020 12:00 PM |
how wide is the wall ? get 2 helpers to help you with the project. as a side note: I hope you understand the complexities of wood movement. . -- there is no educational alternative to having a front row seat in the School of Hard Knocks. -- |
#4 posted 05-03-2020 12:13 PM |
Finger joints on a router table is probably the neatest and strongest way to join boards end-to-end. https://www.amazon.com/FINGER-JOINT-BIT/dp/B001DT4S8C For accurate ripping of long boards on the table saw, use feather boards to keep the work pressed against the fence as it begins the cut. There are many different ways to rig a feather board. My wife gave me a set of these magnetic ones for Christmas last year and I’ve found them to be the easiest to set than anything I”ve used so far. |
#5 posted 05-03-2020 01:19 PM |
The wall is a little less than 8 ft wide. |
#6 posted 05-03-2020 01:39 PM |
Ripping on a PCS should be no problem, but |
#7 posted 05-03-2020 01:51 PM |
No way to hide a joint, the whole wall will be exposed. I’m ok with a visible joint if it’s the most reliable way to do this project though |
#8 posted 05-03-2020 01:51 PM |
Japanese joinery would be a nice feature in your office. Maybe something like this: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Japanese+joinery&t=h_&iax=images&ia=images Just something to think about. |
#9 posted 05-03-2020 01:57 PM |
If you start with boards longer than you need, cut them in half. Work from the same side of each shorter piece and put match marks on the ends for later grain match. That will help hide the type of joint you choose. |
#10 posted 05-03-2020 02:14 PM |
No reason at all you shouldn’t just build a decent out feed table. It would be FAR quicker than dicking around trying to figure out how to join shorter pieces and then executing.
Good plan.
No question the wood will move as you cut. How much depends on both the grain and quality of the lumber. Layout the wall correctly and accurately so you don’t end up with an uneven space or a half piece at finish. Take extra care on the first piece and make sure it’s attached DEAD PLUMB and STRAIGHT. After that use appropriate sized spacer blocks to space and hold the next piece in place. Keep checking plumb visually and with a level. You may have to make minor corrections every 10-12 pieces depending how accurately you proceed. As for attachment, a SMALL dab of glue every 14-16” should be plenty to hold the pieces in place permanently. Pins to hold while the glue dries. Don’t over complicate this…it isn’t a difficult project if you take your time and think through it. -- “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” – Plato |
#11 posted 05-03-2020 02:15 PM |
If it were me, I would consider using splines as a way to hold the end joints together. Before you rip your white oak down cut the slots in the end with a router and a slot bit. It will most likely tear out a little on the exit, but you can trim that away when you rip them down. This method will require you to figure out your finished lengths in advance. At .75 x .75 I don’t think the strips will stay straight for long. They should not be too much of a problem to line up when you put them on the wall. You will need to mill the spline material to fit the slot. Mill them a little loose, because the glue will swell the joint. Have you considered making your strips wider and using a difference spacing for balance. |
#12 posted 05-03-2020 02:42 PM |
Maybe I’m missing something but for a 9’ length of wood I don’t see this as an issue. Build some kind of temporary outfeed supports for the table saw. Maybe even a couple of saw horses with blocks of wood elevating a 2×6 on top of them. To keep the wood against the fence just clamp a block of wood on the out feed end of the saw table to sandwich the wood you’re cutting between it and the fence. Leave a slight, very slight gap so that it moves through easily without friction. To me this is a fairly simple solution instead of mortised joints and such. Then again, maybe I’ve missed the point and this isn’t a solution. -- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful. |
#13 posted 05-03-2020 02:46 PM |
John, can you expand on this. Another option that might be easier for you would be to cut your plywood into 2 foot sections and attach your strips to the plywood first, then put them up on the wall. That way your working on a table instead of the wall. |
#14 posted 05-03-2020 03:50 PM |
Thanks for all the advice! I think I’ll give it a go with full length strips, rather than messing with end joinery. First, build some proper outfeed as suggested. Rip the full 9ft length, with infeed featherboards, and perhaps a loose block at outfeed, as suggested, to minimize lateral movement (should I be worried about kickback??). Perhaps change the dimensions of the strips as suggested as well. Maybe 1” wide by 3/4” thick, spaced 1/2” apart? Unsure. Any thought on ideal ratios? Unfortunately, given that the wall is almost 9ft high, a 4×8 sheet still won’t cover the full height, so there will have to be a horizontal seam. Any tips for that? |
#15 posted 05-03-2020 04:20 PM |
Either buy 10’ plywood, or scab a 2’piece onto the end of your 8’ piece. (Biscuits and glue) I’m doing a similar wall right now. The strips are 1 1/2” wide, with 1/2” space. |
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