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05-02-2020 02:41 AM

Topic tags/keywords: sliding rule square engineers square double square

Who makes a sliding rule square that’s accurate and feels good in the hand?

I think the quality of Starrett may have fallen, but are there any quality alternatives?


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#1 posted 05-02-2020 02:56 AM

What size? I think Starrett are still good quality, though I have heard of knockoffs on Amazon, just like most things. So make sure to get from a reputable dealer. A less expensive option is the PEC seconds from Harry Epstein.

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#2 posted 05-02-2020 03:27 AM

On what do you base your thought that Starrett has fallen in quality?

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#3 posted 05-02-2020 08:46 AM

My last Starrett product felt a little rough in the hand, that’s all. Though it’s probably as accurate as ever, and I may have been unlucky. For what it’s worth, Chris Schwartz made a comment that “the quality of the new [Starrett] stuff seems to be falling lately. I hope it’s temporary.”

Either way, I’m curious to know if there are any alternatives to Starrett. I guess there’s Woodpeckers but their tools aren’t cheap!

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#4 posted 05-02-2020 09:54 AM

Just got a 6 inch iGang square. At least it is cast iron, not zinc.
One of the videos I saw mentioned one that was held with magnets.

My Stanley is square, but don’t care for it. I tested every brand at the Home Depot. Not a single one was square.

Seems the Incra products have a lot of followers. Don;t think they make a sliding combo square though.

Everyone talks up Starrett. I bought a tap handle from them as the ones in my kits were total junk. Well, it is not junk, but I am not impressed either especially for the price. I won’t buy the other sizes.

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#5 posted 05-02-2020 02:10 PM

Well, if Chris Schwartz says the quality is falling, then it has to be true. He knows everything, just ask him.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#6 posted 05-02-2020 02:20 PM

Starrett quality has ( or had) fallen in quality. I retired a couple of years ago from 40 years as a machinist/tool and die maker. Starrett had always been the tools everything else was compared to. But for the last year or so in the trade we saw Starrett tools as being hit or miss. The last precision bevel square ( #52 I think) we ordered was junk. We tried three before we got a good one.

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#7 posted 05-02-2020 02:21 PM

I have a couple of Starretts that I bought used, a 6” and a 12”. I have an Empire 16” that ’s actually decent, and is square. I also have another 12” Stanley, that I bought years ago that’s been fine, and is also square.

I’ve heard good things about PEC stuff. Picked up a set of 8” dividers recently and really like the quality of them. I am curious to try some of their squares (Only because my old Starretts are getting worn, and the edges of the rulers are starting to wear down a bit)

-- John F. SoCal transplant, chewer uppper of good wood

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#8 posted 05-02-2020 02:22 PM


Well, if Chris Schwartz says the quality is falling, then it has to be true. He knows everything, just ask him.

- Rich

We have waaayyyyyy smarter people here at LJ.
So much that I am very hesitant to even try to answer a question any more.
Even when the “smart” ones are off course, it’s not worth the effort to try to explain.
Fortunately/Unfortunately for me, I only know what I know, nothing more.

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#9 posted 05-02-2020 02:41 PM

A square Empire? I wonder how that happened. :)

I will say, the iGange is not nice to hold. Sharp edges etc, but it is square.

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#10 posted 05-02-2020 03:15 PM



Even when the “smart” ones are off course, it s not worth the effort to try to explain.
- LeeRoyMan

I’ve been using a 6” Swanson combo for 20 years. Built some pretty cool stuff with it….it does what it’s supposed to do and it cost me about $12.00 I think?
Purdy smart….
Had a decent Stanley before that. I accidentally ran over it with a forklift…it was never quite the same.

-- “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” – Plato

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#11 posted 05-02-2020 03:18 PM

Even when the “smart” ones are off course, it s not worth the effort to try to explain.
- LeeRoyMan

I ve been using a 6” Swanson combo for 20 years. Built some pretty cool stuff with it….it does what it s supposed to do and it cost me about $12.00 I think?
Purdy smart….
Had a decent Stanley before that. I accidentally ran over it with a forklift…it was never quite the same.

- Tony_S


Well, you’re pretty hard headed.
There’s no reasoning with you.
You can’t be doing accurate work if you don’t spend 120 dollars on a proper square. ;)

(It’s a good thing I’m a rough carpenter)

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#12 posted 05-02-2020 03:33 PM


Even when the “smart” ones are off course, it s not worth the effort to try to explain.
- LeeRoyMan

I ve been using a 6” Swanson combo for 20 years. Built some pretty cool stuff with it….it does what it s supposed to do and it cost me about $12.00 I think?
Purdy smart….
Had a decent Stanley before that. I accidentally ran over it with a forklift…it was never quite the same.

- Tony_S

Well, you re pretty hard headed.
There s no reasoning with you.
You can t be doing accurate work if you don t spend 120 dollars on a proper square. ;)

(It s a good thing I m a rough carpenter)

- LeeRoyMan

I make up for it though….I have fat carbide.

-- “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” – Plato

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#13 posted 05-02-2020 03:51 PM


I make up for it though….I have fat carbide.

- Tony_S


Is it honed on the sides?

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#14 posted 05-02-2020 04:18 PM


I make up for it though….I have fat carbide.

- Tony_S

Is it honed on the sides?

- LeeRoyMan

Doesn’t matter….fats where it’s at!

-- “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” – Plato

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#15 posted 05-02-2020 08:15 PM

I feel an accurate combination square is a very important tool for any workshop. I use mine to align my machine tools. If the machines are not set up to cut square, you cannot expect your wood projects to be square. A saw blade that is out of square with the saw can mean a gap in a joint that could be unacceptable. The difference between a factory built kitchen cabinet and one built at home is the factory machines are dialed in to cut square and maintained for accuracy. If you want your projects to turn out equal to factory built, you have to have machines that can cut accurately. A precision combination square is a must.

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