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04-25-2020 01:31 PM

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After seeing one often in Bandits photos and watching Paul Sellers use one to even up a tenon I have decided I want one. If I buy new I am looking at https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/tools/hand-tools/planes/router/52609-veritas-router-plane I like the way the blade can be removed and attached to a jig for sharpening. At nearly $200 it is likely to cause the other half to deem it an unneeded expense. I see some on ebay in the $60 ~ $200 range. Is it worth it to keep my eye on ebay or am I likely to to get one that need a new blade and possibly needs work bringing the cost close to what a new one costs? There is also a https://www.amazon.com/Cowryman-Router-Plane-Handheld-Woodworking/dp/B074LHXC44/ref=sr11_sspa?crid=1FVQ4STC7FGCG&dchild=1&keywords=router+plane&qid=1587821208&sprefix=router+plane%2Caps%2C285&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzNjlRRUxDOFdEMEMzJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjk3NTY5MUpUUExGWVBKVU5TQyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMDM2OTQ0N0lINlQyOUdTRUJIJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ====
that may be cheaper but lacks the finer details. Anyone have one of these?


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#1 posted 04-25-2020 02:30 PM


I like the way the blade can be removed and attached to a jig for sharpening.

- controlfreak

Just a thought, I use the Veritas 1/2” blade in a vintage Stanley 71 because it’s easy to sharpen.
The Veritas blade is slightly taller than Stanley originals so the depth adjusting nut needs to be turned upside down on the Stanley (or fit a wood sub-base)

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#2 posted 04-25-2020 02:42 PM

The Lee Valley plane is the one I would pick if buying new. If that’s not in the financial cards, it’s generally not that hard to find a Stanley 71 or 71-1/2 on ebay for less than $100. I have a 71 and it works fine, but if given a chance to do over, I would get the 71-1/2. It’s best if you can buy one with blades, but the Lee Valley replacement blades will work in a Stanley, just have to turn the adjusting nut upside down. My 71 was purchased off ebay several years ago at the bottom end of the range you list and had two blades that just needed some TLC to get back square and sharp.

The ebay one you linked is only 4-1/2 in wide, so closer in size to the Lee Valley small router plane than a full size one. A full size router plane is far more useful, IMHO. You aren’t going to true up tenons with a tiny one.

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#3 posted 04-25-2020 04:32 PM

I have the Stanley#71 with blades and yes It works well,,, but bought the Veritas with all the blades and the inlay attachment because it just works better:) Veritas also sells the Medium and small version, the small for me would be of no use but the medium did:)(can use same blades as the large one)

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#4 posted 04-25-2020 07:39 PM

Now, how about a dishonest review?

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#5 posted 04-25-2020 09:29 PM

I have the Stanley 71. Came with an original blade. Bought the extras (i.e. different dimension) from Highland Hardware. I have no complaints with it.

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#6 posted 04-25-2020 09:50 PM

I saw a nice one with box & blades go for $220 on ebay this afternoon.

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#7 posted 04-26-2020 09:21 PM

Now I am eyeballing the Lie-Nielsen Large Router Plane No. 71. It is about $40 cheaper than the Veritas but I would hate to get a crappy tool trying to save $40 bucks. Anyone have any opinion on the Lie-Nelson version?

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#8 posted 04-26-2020 09:30 PM

I also would suggest the Lee Valley/Veritas if the bank allows. If you go old Stanley, and cannot find one for under 100 bux, PM me. I’ve got several unemployed ones laying around, and could work something out with you. I’m not shopping for one right now, so I’ve no idea what they are offering on the Bay.

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#9 posted 04-26-2020 10:32 PM

I had the same dilemma a year or 2 ago. All the old Stanleys were a crap shoot for $160. The ones on ebay and amazon are misleading, as the cheap ones are usually small. I narrowed it down to Veritas and LN. both about the same quality. Veritas had some more options but ended up being quite a bit more money especially if you bought the optional fence. The Veritas also takes some fiddling to get the screw to lock down tight, though Derek on Inthewoodshop has a how to. I dedided I didn’t really need all the bells and whistles and while attending a local LN tool event pulled the trigger on the LN. about $40 cheaper and free shipping. No regrets and haven’t needed anything besides the stock iron. Will probably order the small once i need it.

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#10 posted 04-27-2020 01:10 AM


I had the same dilemma a year or 2 ago. All the old Stanleys were a crap shoot for $160. The ones on ebay and amazon are misleading, as the cheap ones are usually small. I narrowed it down to Veritas and LN. both about the same quality. Veritas had some more options but ended up being quite a bit more money especially if you bought the optional fence. The Veritas also takes some fiddling to get the screw to lock down tight, though Derek on Inthewoodshop has a how to. I dedided I didn’t really need all the bells and whistles and while attending a local LN tool event pulled the trigger on the LN. about $40 cheaper and free shipping. No regrets and haven’t needed anything besides the stock iron. Will probably order the small once i need it.

- SMP

I’m glad to hear it, everyone sings the praises of the Veritas version but for some reason I am really considering the Lie-Nielsen 71-1/2. There are fewer options but it seems like it locks down more solidly. One thing on price I think may be worth considering for folks.

if you get the Veritas router plane with a fence it will come out to ~$190 which includes two blades. If you want a 1/4” blade it will cost another $15.50 bringing the total to ~$205.50

if you want to get something equivalent at Lie-Nielsen you are paying $140 for the 71-1/2 with one blade and the fence included. Then if you want to tack on a 1/4” blade you will need to get the small blade adapter at $40 and then the extra blade at $35 bringing your total to $205 (and they don’t currently sell a spear point version of their larger blade so you are still down one blade in comparison to the Veritas)

I am looking to buy one of these now and I am not considering price between them, ultimately I think they wash out to be about the same if you are going to get any extras beyond just the base model.

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#11 posted 04-27-2020 01:11 AM

Sorry, double posted by accident

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#12 posted 04-27-2020 01:46 AM


I m glad to hear it, everyone sings the praises of the Veritas version but for some reason I am really considering the Lie-Nielsen 71-1/2. There are fewer options but it seems like it locks down more solidly. One thing on price I think may be worth considering for folks.

if you get the Veritas router plane with a fence it will come out to ~$190 which includes two blades. If you want a 1/4” blade it will cost another $15.50 bringing the total to ~$205.50

if you want to get something equivalent at Lie-Nielsen you are paying $140 for the 71-1/2 with one blade and the fence included. Then if you want to tack on a 1/4” blade you will need to get the small blade adapter at $40 and then the extra blade at $35 bringing your total to $205 (and they don t currently sell a spear point version of their larger blade so you are still down one blade in comparison to the Veritas)

I am looking to buy one of these now and I am not considering price between them, ultimately I think they wash out to be about the same if you are going to get any extras beyond just the base model.

- AGolden

If you get the small router plane, it comes with the smaller blade, then you just need the adapter if you ever need it in the large body. But in reality if you need the smaller blade you’ll probably want it in the smaller body anyways.

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#13 posted 04-27-2020 02:40 AM

I’m looking for a smaller router plane for minor clean-ups and adjustments. I primarily use power tools, but these look really handy. There have been a few times when I think one would have helped out a lot.

Any thoughts on the Veritas Medium Router Plane with 1/4” blade?

I know, it starts with a harmless little router plane, then a …

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#14 posted 04-27-2020 04:41 AM

Several years ago I bought a Walke Moore 2500, this is a reproduction of the Preston 2500. It’s great for larger pieces and versatile. I waited 3 years on a waiting list but well worth it. The LV is great for smaller work and a better selection of blades.

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#15 posted 04-27-2020 05:08 AM

If you get the small router plane, it comes with the smaller blade, then you just need the adapter if you ever need it in the large body. But in reality if you need the smaller blade you’ll probably want it in the smaller body anyways.

- SMP

I was thinking the same thing, why buy a small blade and adapter for nearly the same price as the small router plane right? But then I thought there might be a lot of situations where having the smaller blade on the larger plane would come in handy, like for plowing or cleaning up a 1/4” grove on the edge of a board. The small router plane wouldn’t have the fence for that type of work, but I am not sure how often those kind of situations come up.

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