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jamsomito

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04-15-2020 07:21 PM

I don’t have a vise, but I really need one. I have some short pipes for my pipe clamps so I think I’m going to make a Moxon vise I can clamp to the top of my workbench. I was thinking I’d make it out of hard maple as I have a few more boards than I need for my list of other projects.

Question is – should I add a “liner” of sorts to the jaws? Is maple too hard? I don’t really know what I’d make it out of as I don’t have leather. I have other woods like red oak, some cherry, and a couple 2×4’s – thought I could make a 1/4” strip out of a 2×4 and glue it in the jaws. But then if it gets beat up there’s not a great way to get it off without marring up the face of the jaws. Any thoughts? Thanks.


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#1 posted 04-15-2020 09:29 PM

I used the BenchCrafted kit, which includes a couple sheets of “crubber” to use as the linings.

The full kit is here: https://www.benchcrafted.com/moxon

You can buy just the “crubber” here: https://www.benchcrafted.com/crubber

-- Jim Maher, Illinois

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#2 posted 04-15-2020 10:09 PM

If you have some scraps laying around, grip, and work a few pieces of scrap, and see what you think of both the pieces of scrap, and the inner aspect of your Maple jaws. I’m betting you won’t find any “damage” to either side.

Maple is a pretty forgiving wood, and Hard Maple has a Janka of 1450, it is hard enough to not get beat up, yet soft enough not to do damage.

I’ve used HM for almost all of my vises through the years, and have considered Cork, but never done it, and can’t say I’ve seen any damage with unlined chops.

What you are considering, using a Moxon on an existing work table is a smart move. So many aspects of woodworking are moving in a direction, away from a traditional workbench. Unless you are a hand tools only user, a traditional bench doesn’t really compliment power equipment. The Moxon allows great utility for DTs, and many smallish work holding, to large work holding jobs. Seeing that most Moxons have a wider chop than a face vise. All that remains is positioning, and having some same height outbound support, and you can work long stock.

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#3 posted 04-15-2020 11:13 PM

I made this vise using a dumbbell rod that I cut into two pieces about 9” each. The wood was some soft stuff from a bed frame, not sure what it is but real soft. Not the best looking but it is very handy and works well.

-- "I build for function first, looks second. Most times I never get around to looks." MIke in CO

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#4 posted 04-16-2020 01:29 AM



I made this vise using a dumbbell rod that I cut into two pieces about 9” each. The wood was some soft stuff from a bed frame, not sure what it is but real soft. Not the best looking but it is very handy and works well.

- BlasterStumps


Some ingenuity there. Looks like an ACME thread from here.

-- Darrel

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#5 posted 04-16-2020 01:31 AM

I made this vise using a dumbbell rod that I cut into two pieces about 9” each. The wood was some soft stuff from a bed frame, not sure what it is but real soft. Not the best looking but it is very handy and works well.

- BlasterStumps


Some ingenuity there. Looks like an ACME thread from here. In the past, I was lucky enough to acquire some scaffolding levelling jacks with ACME thread. Probably still a cheaper option for large ACME threads if you’re mechanically inclined. That vise stayed with the shop and built in bench many years ago.

-- Darrel

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WoodenDreams

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#6 posted 04-16-2020 03:47 AM

Need a quick vise. Will work in a pinch. Try this till you get one.
Here’s three different vises made with pipe clamps and plans to make them. https://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/3-classic-vises-made-with-pipe-clamps-2/
You can also make the moxon vise with F-Clamps instead of pipe clamps. You don’t need leather pads on the clamps. If I’m worried about scratching a finish, I’ll use a shop towel in the vise to protect the finish.

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#7 posted 04-16-2020 03:49 AM

Mine is made out of hard maple. I didn’t use any “liner” at all.

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#8 posted 04-16-2020 04:10 AM

Liner will give you more grip in some situations where a board may otherwise twist or rotate etc depending on how tight you cranked it down. A liner makes it not as critical. Last i bought a roll of scrap suede at hobby lobby for a few bucks. Have also used that self adhesive thin cork you can get at the BORG.

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#9 posted 04-16-2020 11:28 AM

Thank you for all the thoughts, everyone!

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#10 posted 04-16-2020 11:39 AM

I use and like the bench on bench type. Here’s one I just made for a swap
Click for details

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#11 posted 04-16-2020 01:31 PM

I made one as one of my first projects and had a lot of fun with it. (not sure how to create a link to my projects on LJ) I kind of made it up as I went along. I did steal someones idea of using some golds gym dumbbells from walmart as the screws for $7.99 a piece. It worked great.

Good luck!

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jamsomito

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#12 posted 04-17-2020 10:45 PM



I use and like the bench on bench type. Here s one I just made for a swap
Click for details

- GrantA


I made one as one of my first projects and had a lot of fun with it. (not sure how to create a link to my projects on LJ) I kind of made it up as I went along. I did steal someones idea of using some golds gym dumbbells from walmart as the screws for $7.99 a piece. It worked great.

Good luck!

- controlfreak

Ok, classic me overthinking things… I’m considering making the little bench on bench type now. Seems to add some functionality I don’t have with my current kitchen island I’m using for a workbench. Think it would be worth the extra wood in my case? I only have 3/4 stock so it would be a pretty big glue up. I’m also making this so I can learn how to use hand tools better… As of right now all I have to flatten glue-ups is my ROS. I have a couple planes but they are not sharp and to be frank I don’t know what I’m doing with them yet.

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#13 posted 04-20-2020 05:03 AM

Foghorn that is an interesting vise, how did you mount your screws into the table

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#14 posted 04-20-2020 03:04 PM



Foghorn that is an interesting vise, how did you mount your screws into the table

- Karda

Not my vise. It’s BlasterStump’s.

-- Darrel

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BlasterStumps

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#15 posted 04-20-2020 04:34 PM

Karda, I used a couple 1/2” X 6” bolts when I mount the vise on top edge of the workbench. However, I have been experimenting with the bench and since have moved the vise to the end of the top mounting it with some screws. I’m experimenting because I have plans to replace the bench and want to know what works and what doesn’t. A moxon style vise seems best when clamping a board vertical but when you only clamp at the top of the jaws, you get a lot of racking. My next bench may have a twin screw of some kind on it but most likely not the moxon. As you can see in this picture, I tried out the idea of drilling the top for bench dogs to work with the moxon. But with this particular vise, because of the racking, it’s not a good idea and wont be incorporating that in the new bench. Just had to give it a try.

-- "I build for function first, looks second. Most times I never get around to looks." MIke in CO

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