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04-02-2020 10:14 PM

Has anyone tried these new TS blades from Woodcraft..made by Wood river ?? the 80 tooth is $99.99 I’m wondering if i should just put a little more with it and get the Forrest or freud blade… I love finding new products that are a great deal… but id like some feedback first if possible.

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#1 posted 04-03-2020 11:54 AM

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#2 posted 04-03-2020 12:32 PM

Not a fan of do-all blades at all. Of them, I would tag the Ridge Carbide 2000 the best.
But, a Diablo 60 or 80 tooth crosscut and 24 tooth rip will serve you better. Right blade for the right job. I mistakenly put up with them for years on both the RAS and TS. I now know better. I run thin kerf as I have a 1 3/4 HP in the TS, but am changing to a full width in the miter saw. When I get a 3 HP cabinet, I may change to full width on the TS. More stability especially doing things like glue line perfection.

As has been covered in this forum before.
Ridge Carbide, Freud, CMT, Amana, Forrest, etc. are the premium blades professionals prefer because the carbides are thick enough to be sharpened many times. I suggest you go read their WEB sites and glean the common use and advice. Obviously, they are all the best of the best, so put on your “Madison Av. filter” on first.

If you do not plan on resharpening more than a couple of times, then the second tier like Diablo, Mamba etc. Quality and performance is the same, just less carbide and half the price.

I used an expensive Freud Fusion on my TS. It may be great for a job-site where you are not going to be changing the blade, but it did not cut as well as the pair of Diablos for about the same total price. One size fits… one. Not all. Get used to changing the blade.

In the other side, really poor blades cost almost as much as a Diablo or equivalent. I made the mistake of thinking I should use a cheap blade where I know it is going to be harsh. But I found on a cement board blade, the cheap blade lasted a dozen cuts.( Avanti) The 4 tooth Diablo finished the house and still looks good. I had a cheap “hit a nail” blade. ( DeWalt) Lost a tooth first time it did. I now keep a Diablo demo blade.

I am just starting to play with 7 1/4 blades on the TS. I had not thought of that before. I need to make new ZCIs with splitters moved way forward. Not convinced yet but folks doing lots of small work seem to prefer them.

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#3 posted 04-03-2020 01:39 PM

Ok gotcha… Thanks for your input.

You consider this 80 tooth blade a do-all blade?

I am actually moving away from do-all blades also, this is why i was looking at the 80 tooth plywood blade, instead of a general purpose blade. Before I actually pulled the trigger on this 80 tooth Woodriver blade I wanted to get some feedback.

I use diablo and Leuco General purpose/combo blades for most of my work and it does fine… but here lately I’ve had a few oak plywood projects that need a dedicated crosscut/plywood blade IMO.

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#4 posted 04-03-2020 04:56 PM

An 80 tooth is a crosscut blade. From the specs, it does look like a nice blade. Probably very good for plywood.

Please go to the saw blade makers WEB sites and read all about each of their blades, types of teeth and why each is designed for what it is. Amana, CMT, Ridge Carbide, Freud. Even the page you reference, they show their RIP and glue line rip blades.

Hmmm. mid priced, 10 degree ATB 1/8 kerf. Might be a good candidate for a miter saw. I have not tried a WoodRiver blade. I was thinking about the Amana 610800c for about the same price.

Have you tried a Diablo D1080x for plywood? I have had good luck. Then get a D1024x for rip. Both cost less than the Woodriver single blade. At $24 bucks, the rip disposable.

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#5 posted 04-03-2020 06:52 PM

Before you buy, compare item for item of this plywood,. melamine cutting blade to this Freud.

https://www.amazon.com/Freud-Ultimate-Plywood-Melamine-LU80R010/dp/B0007WKBEQ

Consider anything labeled “Wood River” is WoodCrafts no name line of product, made by who knows. It’s also 15 bux more than the Freud, a well known saw brand.

This was my Google search string. You could do it without adding Freud, could be many others. I just added Freud because I had seen them often talking about Certa something years ago in their advertising when talking about their carbide tips. I always thought, gee fresher breath too.

Freud, 10”, 80 tooth. ATB, .126 kerf, 10 degree hook angle, Ceratizit™ carbide tips

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#6 posted 04-03-2020 07:20 PM

At $100, it doesn’t scream deal for an unproven blade to me. Similar money buys well knowns like the CMT 210.080.10, Freud LU80, Infinity 010-080, and even the Ridge Carbide MC10802 is only $20 more. IMHO, there are too many other great choices to go fishing for this one.

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#7 posted 04-03-2020 11:08 PM



At $100, it doesn t scream deal for an unproven blade to me. Similar money buys well knowns like the CMT 210.080.10, Freud LU80, Infinity 010-080, and even the Ridge Carbide MC10802 is only $20 more. IMHO, there are too many other great choices to go fishing for this one.

- knotscott

I was thinking the same thing!!! you would think for a new unproven blade they would have a low initial price for it. I mean why would i pay 100 for an unproven blade when proven blades cost the same, less or slightly more.

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#8 posted 04-04-2020 12:37 AM



At $100, it doesn t scream deal for an unproven blade to me. Similar money buys well knowns like the CMT 210.080.10, Freud LU80, Infinity 010-080, and even the Ridge Carbide MC10802 is only $20 more. IMHO, there are too many other great choices to go fishing for this one.

- knotscott

+1. There seems little reason to try the unknown blade when there are good blades with good history available at the same price.

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#9 posted 04-22-2020 12:18 AM

Take a look at these two photos of glue-line rip blades and tell me if you see any similarity:

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#10 posted 04-22-2020 02:17 AM


Take a look at these two photos of glue-line rip blades and tell me if you see any similarity:

- Rich

They are charging more than Amana for their blade, LOL I wonder who is making the blade for who. Either way, I’ll pass and go with a known brand for the price.. or I would go with the Amana blade. It
is cheaper.

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#11 posted 04-22-2020 02:24 AM

I would not think a Forrest is comparable to a Freud. Freud to me is a budget blade. Forrest even though I don’t use them I would think there much better from what I hear.

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#12 posted 04-22-2020 02:34 AM



I would not think a Forrest is comparable to a Freud. Freud to me is a budget blade. Forrest even though I don t use them I would think there much better from what I hear.

- JackDuren

Freud budget ? I consider diablo budget.. even though Forrest might be better, i wouldn’t call it budget. what blades are you using

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#13 posted 04-22-2020 02:52 AM


They are charging more than amana for their blade, LOL i wonder who is making it for who. either way. Ill pass and go with a known brand for the price.. or hell i would go with the amana blade. It
s cheaper.

- Rich
- bluephi1914

You need to fix your post if you still have time. You screwed it up and made it look like I wrote that drivel.

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#14 posted 04-22-2020 02:52 AM

Amana, Leitz,tenyru?... have five Goin to the sharpener tomorrow. Hope they come back as good as new…

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#15 posted 04-22-2020 09:46 AM

Woodcrafts site is effed right now, but they look like the same blade for the most part? Never used either so I can’t really blather on…
One thing I found interesting on the woodriver is the strange detentes(for a lack of a better term) in the expansion slots. I don’t think I’ve ever noticed that before in other blades. Harmonics maybe? Dunno…

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