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Forum topic by hkmiller posted 02-13-2020 01:29 PM 1718 views 0 times favorited 38 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-13-2020 01:29 PM

For plane and chisels

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#1 posted 02-13-2020 01:37 PM

I bought this one on Amazon I had to make the modifications shown in this video and then build the set up jigs. For the work and effort I wish I had just bought the Veritas

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#2 posted 02-13-2020 02:03 PM

Inexpensive and good, figure out how to use these:

Least setup time, and most versatile option

 
Failing that… Inexpensive:

 

Or what ChefDAN posted above is solid too. I think I have one somewhere that I got with a group of tools.
In all honesty, I would recommend if you’re planning to stick with the sharpening guide for the long term, spend the money now and get a nicer one like one of Veritas’s offerings:
MKII: or The cheaper version

If you plan to just use the guide to get started and switch to freehand sharpening, then I would stick with the cheap one posted above, as it will work

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#3 posted 02-13-2020 02:13 PM

I basically did the same as ChefDan. That chinese guide is rebranded as 100 different brands and available everywhere. I used the video from Lie Nielsen on how to modify it. Currently in the transition of learning to sharpen free hand after watching Paul Sellers and Richard Maguire’s videos.

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#4 posted 02-13-2020 02:40 PM

A Japanese tool expert gave a demonstration at a woodworking club I used to belong to. The part of his apprenticeship on sharpening by hand on waterstones was a full year if you can believe it. He sharpened a Japanese blade which he then put into a wooden, pull plane body. Pulling the plane with a string, he easily took an 8’ shaving off the edge of a 1” board. You could see through the shaving easily. Apparently they hold competitions for this.

-- Darrel

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#5 posted 02-13-2020 06:29 PM



Inexpensive and good, figure out how to use these:

Least setup time, and most versatile option

 
Failing that… Inexpensive:

 

Or what ChefDAN posted above is solid too. I think I have one somewhere that I got with a group of tools.
In all honesty, I would recommend if you re planning to stick with the sharpening guide for the long term, spend the money now and get a nicer one like one of Veritas s offerings:
MKII: or The cheaper version

If you plan to just use the guide to get started and switch to freehand sharpening, then I would stick with the cheap one posted above, as it will work

- Mosquito

I currently sharpen by hand with plate glass and sand paper. Works ok, but I want to get a better edge.

Any downside with the cheaper version Veritas?

-- always something

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#6 posted 02-13-2020 07:31 PM

I have the veritas and I used it a couple times. its great but I should have saved my money and used my hands. Its faster and just as good. I would still go back to it if you have to drop far down in grit to reshape. But for a sharpening in the higher grits hands are perfect.

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#7 posted 02-13-2020 08:46 PM

oops, it appears both links ended up being the same…
This is the cheaper one I should have been referencing:
https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/tools/sharpening/guides/33001-veritas-sharpening-system

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#8 posted 02-13-2020 09:21 PM

i’ve used a couple of different types of $5 honing guides. They work fine for me. Not good for Japanese chisels because of the shape, however.

A cheap honing guide can help you do better than by hand. I have 3 of them. Sometimes when I’ve got a really dull thing, I leave it in one of them for weeks and just work it on the extra-coarse diamond stone from time to time as I happen to feel the urge.

A little work with a file will make a plane iron sit flatter on these things.

They all seem similar. Like this.

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#9 posted 02-13-2020 09:25 PM

By the way…

A magnetic “angle cube” makes setup a snap.

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#10 posted 02-13-2020 10:26 PM



i ve used a couple of different types of $5 honing guides. They work fine for me. Not good for Japanese chisels because of the shape, however.

A cheap honing guide can help you do better than by hand. I have 3 of them. Sometimes when I ve got a really dull thing, I leave it in one of them for weeks and just work it on the extra-coarse diamond stone from time to time as I happen to feel the urge.

A little work with a file will make a plane iron sit flatter on these things.

They all seem similar. Like this.

- Ocelot

That is a great price on ebay.

Before I saw your post, I had ordered this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C9X3F98/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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#11 posted 02-14-2020 12:47 AM

Buy a cheap tool you buy it many times. Buy the best tool and it lasts you a lifetime.

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#12 posted 02-14-2020 01:06 AM

If you are going to use one of the cheap honing guides, be sure to read a few articles on how to ‘fix’ the known weaknesses. With some modifications they work much more consistently.
Such as:
https://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/tune-up-a-cheap-honing-guide/
or
https://www.finewoodworking.com/2016/09/09/modifying-an-inexpensive-honing-guide

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#13 posted 02-14-2020 10:37 AM

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#14 posted 02-14-2020 02:30 PM



oops, it appears both links ended up being the same…
This is the cheaper one I should have been referencing:
https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/tools/sharpening/guides/33001-veritas-sharpening-system

- Mosquito


I used this for years with great success. Last year I upgraded to the mk2, even better! Loves me my “training wheels” after three decades. Never can understand how invested others are in not using a guide, they take it personal, lol.

-- Eric

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#15 posted 02-14-2020 04:18 PM

oops, it appears both links ended up being the same…
This is the cheaper one I should have been referencing:
https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/tools/sharpening/guides/33001-veritas-sharpening-system

- Mosquito

I used this for years with great success. Last year I upgraded to the mk2, even better! Loves me my “training wheels” after three decades. Never can understand how invested others are in not using a guide, they take it personal, lol.

- Eric

Yeah, I’ve used one of those for years as well and other methods. I like the ease of doing a micro-bevel with the flick of a knob.

-- Darrel

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