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Forum topic by Boberto posted 01-20-2020 10:40 PM 833 views 0 times favorited 35 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Boberto

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01-20-2020 10:40 PM

Thinking of getting a drum sander. There doesn’t seem to be many used ones in southern Iowa area. Looking at the grizzly 18-36 G0458z for $895 or Acme tool has a supermax 19-38 for $1349. I like the looks of the super max. Is it worth the extra $$?


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CWWoodworking

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#1 posted 01-20-2020 11:34 PM

What are you wanting to do with it?

When it comes to drum sanders, there are “babies” and real machines.

The babies will have motors that will run on 110. They will be for finer sander, not for sander panels flat. Unless you have A LOT of time on your hands.

The real machines will have 5 hp 220 motors and bigger. They will sand a panel flat in a couple passes.

I had a 1836 performax. The drive motor breaker would trip if you breathed on it too hard. Motor had to be re-wound after about a month. Keeping it parallel was terrible. The worst 800$ I ever spent.

I now have a 26” woodmaster. It will sand panels flat all day and ask for more. It was the best 3300$ I ever spent. Made in the USA with American Made motor. Only down side is capacity. Not open ended.

I’ve read that they have fixed some of the issues I had with my lighter weight open end. I hope so.

Whatever you get, make sure it uses hook and loop drum. Makes changing paper easy and you don’t have to worry about the paper flying off.

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#2 posted 01-21-2020 12:07 AM

I have the Supermax 16/32 and really like it. It is not a baby and works fine. I do not do production work so it is plenty for me.

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#3 posted 01-21-2020 12:34 AM

I have the Supermax 1836, it is worth every penny. I leave 180 grit in it, it paid for itself in one big kitchen job, sanding the doors. The paper can be a pain to change, but once you figure it out it’s not that bad.

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#4 posted 01-21-2020 12:59 AM

i guess cw thinks your running a production shop,you dont need to spend 3300 to get a decent drum sander,ive got a jet 16-32 plus and love it.and i do sand panels and havn’t burned up the motor yet after 3 years of work in a hobby shop.it has what jet calls sand smart technology so when the load exceeds the belt speed it slows down the fee rate automatically.so unless your a full time pro shop you dont need to spend 3k+

ps-ive never tripped the breaker yet,even under heavy load.

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#5 posted 01-21-2020 01:07 AM

I’ve got a 25/50 and really like it. Getting it properly aligned is a bit of a head ache But the results make up for that.

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#6 posted 01-21-2020 01:42 AM

Never understood why people say pain to change out sandpaper. I changed mine out in less than a minute when it became too beat up.

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CWWoodworking

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#7 posted 01-21-2020 02:02 AM



i guess cw thinks your running a production shop
- pottz

Nope. Just sharing my experience with a sander similar to the one op’s looking at.

Maybe I got a lemon. I was a newbie when I had it, not running a shop.

Tried running face frame stock through it. As in 1.5” oak. It tripped the breaker with one piece. If I took passes light enough that it wouldn’t trip, I could easy just sand it faster with a ROS.

Like I said, I read they improved them. So your guys comparsions might be more accurate.

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Boberto

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#8 posted 01-21-2020 02:40 AM

Sorry, I should have explained myself a bit more. I just have a hobby shop. Very light use. Couldn’t find a 16-32 local but they do have this 19-38 on hand. I have a 13” planer but looking for something to maybe even up wider pieces once in a while like maybe an occasional big cutting board.
Thanks all for the replies!

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WoodES

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#9 posted 01-21-2020 03:26 AM

I have Jet 16-32 that works well in my situation. Chose that over the grizzly due to the size of the dust port. Grizzly was 2.5” Jet was 4”. With the DC setup I have it was a better choice.

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#10 posted 01-21-2020 04:12 AM

I went through the search for a wide belt sander about 6 years ago, and ended up with the Supermax 18/36. I’m very happy I ended there.

My only reservation now is it’s no longer Supermax, but Laguna they are coming through, and throughout their entire history I have seen so many reports of really poor customer service after they have your $$$$. It drove me off their bandsaws several years ago. They are so frequent, and so far all sound like the exact same complaint.

I had a customer service issue with the first Supermax I had, Supermax fixed it right then, just sent another machine, and told me to keep the first for parts. Hard to beat that.

I’ve not seen the Griz you speak of in the flesh, so I hesitate to make an opinion. I do own several Griz tools, and overall feel they offer a LOT of bang for the buck.

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LittleBlackDuck

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#11 posted 01-21-2020 05:30 AM

I have a Jet 22-44 OSC… it’s that OSC (oscillator) that makes a world of difference.


Never understood why people say pain to change out sandpaper. I changed mine out in less than a minute when it became too beat up.
- Holbs

And Amaury Leveaux of France, swam 100m in 44.94 seconds… but not everyone can do that!

I have one of those quick load gizmos for the drum sander and it still takes my hours to change it…
Hey Holbsy… you could make a fortune teaching your quick change method… or do you use hook & loop?

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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WoodenDreams

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#12 posted 01-21-2020 07:42 AM

One thing about the Performax brand, the performance is like the HF Chicago Electric for quality. Not comparing the same quality when comparing it to the Super Max or Jet. Woodmaster Tools is a high end belt sander, made with Quality in mind.

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Fred Hargis

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#13 posted 01-21-2020 11:17 AM

I went with Supermax, right after Laguna tools (unknown to me) bought them. I had hoped to get a USA model, but wound up with an Asian import that Laguna now makes. Even so, it seems to be well made and ‘m happy with the purchase. I, too, bought mine from Acme and have always liked their CS. Since any of them you buy now are Asian imports (I think) I’d suggest the Supermax over the others.

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#14 posted 01-21-2020 11:34 AM

Used Jet 16/32 Plus here, works great.

-- Petey

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#15 posted 01-21-2020 11:37 AM

i have the supermax 16-32…zero problems in 2yrs!

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