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Forum topic by TexAg12 posted 01-13-2020 10:52 PM 1367 views 1 time favorited 37 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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01-13-2020 10:52 PM

Topic tags/keywords: delta tablesaw 36-725 run out question

I bought Delta 36-725 Table saw from Lowe’s last July. It is my first table saw and after watching a few video reviews and reading a few reviews it seemed like a great purchase for the cost and just starting wood working at a more advanced level.

I got it home set it up and it cut just ok.

Looked online and saw how to square the blade up to the table. So I bought a new diablo blade adjusted the blade to the table, and the fence to the table. It cut much better, but the more I used it I noticed a wobble in the blade when starting up and shutting down the saw.

I took the blade off and made sure the arbor and blade were free of debris. I double check and realigned the blade to the table. The wobble is still there.

I looked online and have seen some have had the same issue and have to grind in the arbor to fix it or return it.

I am fairly detailed focused and like to make sure that any factor causing error is me.

I don’t have the money or room (Mostly Room) for a professional cabinet saw at the moment.

I have posted a like to a couple of videos showing the wobble.

1) My first question is how much of a issue is this? Is it going to give me tool much of a head ache building things and trying to learn?

2) Has anyone else had this problem? If so how did you fix it?

3) Should I try to have Delta warranty this?

4) Should I just give up on it, sell it, and buy a different saw?

TL:DR- My newish and first table saw has a wobble and is annoying. What should I do?

https://imgur.com/a/Ky1JWuy

Thank You everyone for the comments.

I bought a Dial indicator and I’m going to post what I find.

Update: 1/14/2020

I went to Woodcraft and bought a new Blade. I went with the Freud LU84M011 10” Full Kerf Combination Blade.

The wobble has disappeared and my cuts are nearly perfect. I am still going to check with the dial indicator, but I think I will be happy with just the new blade. Below is a link to a video of the new blade start up and shut down with a nickel balancing on edge.

https://imgur.com/a/sAVuaP5

Update: 1/15/2020

I received my Clockworks Digital Dial indicator from Amazon. I measured the blade alignment to the table. The blade is within .001 of an inch from alignment with the table.

I then took the blade off tilted the motor and arbor to 45 Degrees and measured the arbor. The arbor only has .001 runout.

I put the blade back on and measured it again and nothing changed.

I also measure the t fence for accuracy.

It seems that the Diablo Blade was the issue. I did buy a Freud Blade which is made but the same company but is the nicer line of blades.

This new blade works great.

Thank you everyone for all the advice and information.

-- TexAg12


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#1 posted 01-13-2020 11:34 PM

Does it still wobble at full speed?
Might be like a car tire, vibrates at 45mph, but smoothes out just a couple mph on either side.

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#2 posted 01-13-2020 11:36 PM

Take it back to Lowes!

-- "PLUMBER'S BUTT! Get over it, everybody has one"

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#3 posted 01-14-2020 12:04 AM

The only way to identify the problem is to use a dial indicator on the blade and the arbor flange. Don’t be quick to blame the saw. I’ve had $$$ blades that are not perfectly true.

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#4 posted 01-14-2020 12:08 AM



Does it still wobble at full speed?
Might be like a car tire, vibrates at 45mph, but smoothes out just a couple mph on either side.

- Scap

Agree. If it’s cutting ok I would continue using it. There’s too much take it back if it’s not necessary. ...

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#5 posted 01-14-2020 12:13 AM



Does it still wobble at full speed?
Might be like a car tire, vibrates at 45mph, but smoothes out just a couple mph on either side.

- Scap

From my eye no, but I can’t tell and it is spinning so quickly. Thanks for the reply.

-- TexAg12

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#6 posted 01-14-2020 12:14 AM



The only way to identify the problem is to use a dial indicator on the blade and the arbor flange. Don t be quick to blame the saw. I ve had $$$ blades that are not perfectly true.

- WhyMe

I have thought of that and plan on getting the Woodpeckers one, unless there is a quality dial indicator that you suggest.

-- TexAg12

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#7 posted 01-14-2020 12:15 AM


Does it still wobble at full speed?
Might be like a car tire, vibrates at 45mph, but smoothes out just a couple mph on either side.

- Scap

Agree. If it s cutting ok I would continue using it. There s too much take it back if it s not necessary. ...

- JackDuren

It does not give me a consistent cut.

-- TexAg12

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#8 posted 01-14-2020 12:17 AM

I’m trying to avoid that since is not the easiest to move and not sure how to return something like that.


Take it back to Lowes!

- Jack Lewis


-- TexAg12

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#9 posted 01-14-2020 12:17 AM



The only way to identify the problem is to use a dial indicator on the blade and the arbor flange. Don t be quick to blame the saw. I ve had $$$ blades that are not perfectly true.

- WhyMe


Totally agree. Check the arbor flange first. If it’s bad, take it back. If its ok, exchange the blade. Preferably for one thats not red.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#10 posted 01-14-2020 12:17 AM

Thank you for all the messages so so far.

-- TexAg12

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#11 posted 01-14-2020 12:27 AM


Does it still wobble at full speed?
Might be like a car tire, vibrates at 45mph, but smoothes out just a couple mph on either side.

- Scap

Agree. If it s cutting ok I would continue using it. There s too much take it back if it s not necessary. ...

- JackDuren

It does not give me a consistent cut.

- TexAg12

What is inconsistent? The cut or the width of the cut?

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#12 posted 01-14-2020 12:32 AM


Does it still wobble at full speed?
Might be like a car tire, vibrates at 45mph, but smoothes out just a couple mph on either side.

- Scap

Agree. If it s cutting ok I would continue using it. There s too much take it back if it s not necessary. ...

- JackDuren

It does not give me a consistent cut.

- TexAg12

What is inconsistent? The cut or the width of the cut?

- JackDuren

I ripped a few pieces of wood about 3 foot long and the widths were not consistent. If you fit up the boards after the cut there would be 1/32 gap at the ends.

-- TexAg12

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#13 posted 01-14-2020 12:33 AM

You don’t need to spend big bucks on a dial indicator. The one harbor freight has wii do the job.

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#14 posted 01-14-2020 12:44 AM

Assuming your fence is square to the blade and the blade square to the miter slots….Does it wobble when using a single blade? If not are you using shims with the dado set? If so, is there a shim pinched between blades on the arbor? To make sure take the shims out and see if the dado set till wobbles. Then try each dado blade by itself.


You don t need to spend big bucks on a dial indicator. The one harbor freight has wii do the job.

- WhyMe


+1

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#15 posted 01-14-2020 01:13 AM

Harbor Freight dial indicator and magnetic base

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