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Brawler

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01-09-2020 12:50 AM

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I have two table saws. One is a 1940 Unisaw, and the other is a 1963 Craftsman 113.29992. The craftsman was my first saw and I acquired the Uni in 2018. I mostly use the Unisaw and use the Craftsman for dado’s, and as an extension table for the Uni. The convenience of two saws and not having to change setups is nice.

The problem: As most of you know the fence on the Craftsman is junk. When I do use it, I have to set it up with “drafting squares” which is a total PITA. So I was thinking of getting a new fence that could mount to and used on both saws as one big long fence. I’m sure I’m not the first to come up with this idea so I was wondering what fences should I be looking at such as the Incra Vega 50 for example. I’m relatively new to all this so I was looking for a recommendation.

-- Daniel, Pontiac, MI


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Madmark2

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#1 posted 01-09-2020 01:02 AM

Normally I suggest Incra but as many have pointed out a 2×4 and a couple of C-clamps is all a real woodworker needs.

Its probably more fence than the saws rate, besides repeatability and accuracy are overrated.

M

-- The hump with the stump and the pump!

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#2 posted 01-09-2020 02:28 AM

Very Super Cool Tools has a video on making custom rails for a their T-Square style fence. In the video the dude pics it up and moves it over to use as a router table fence. So that is one option. The VSCT fences use an aluminum extrusion so you could just purchase the T section and get a custom extrusion the length you need for 80/20 or TNutz. I think they both sell custom lengths.

Personally I feel like 2 saws back to back sharing a fence, if i didnt misunderstand what you want, is a recipe for inaccuracy. Id be looking at getting some Bessey style rails for each and the VSCT fence since its aluminum and light weight. Just swap back and forth as needed. Use one lens for the Uni and the other lens for the C-Man

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therealSteveN

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#3 posted 01-09-2020 06:16 AM

I use, and suggest the Vega fences. Both the Pro’s and the Home Owner styles work the same, it’s just the Pro is a larger fence, like on a Beis, but much more accurate due to the micro-adjuster mechanism on them.

I see you are in Michigan, if you ever travel South on 75 you drive withing 6 miles of me. I’d try to see each of what is suggested. Hands on is the best way to suss this out. Are there any big woodworking tool centers near you? If there is, go there, and look over what they offer. Kick the tires.

I had read a lot about these new Very Super Cool Tools fences. When I finally saw one, I wasn’t very impressed.

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#4 posted 01-09-2020 09:29 AM

Easy peasy.
Mounting your 2nd table saw next to your Unisaw is no different than putting an router table as your saw extension table. You can then use the same high quality fence for both tools.

1) Build a platform/cabinet to support your Craftsman saw that sits next to your Unisaw.

2) Buy or Build ANY Biesemeyer style fence that is long enough to reach across both saws.
(Guessing you want the larger one with 54” cut capacity, as it the main tube 7’ long. The shorter 34” capacity fence is ~5’ long. All depends on shop size?)

3) Mount the front rail of the fence to front of BOTH saws.
The front rail is a 1/4 thick piece of angle iron, and will easily keep both saws aligned. Once mounted up, then you can fix your craftsman saw base to the cabinet, and cabinet to Unisaw to make an integrated workstation.

Use it and be happy!

There are all kinds of posts in WWW on how to make a ‘table saw workstation’ and even a couple that show ‘two table saw workstation’ with saws side by side.
Woodsmith has plans for one example:
https://www.woodsmithplans.com/plan/table-saw-workcenter/

and this post:
https://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/viewer-projects/justins-tablesaw-workstation/

No, you are not first to want two saws.
Some folks even have two Unisaw mounted back to back; so the out feed table for each is side table for the other. Having two saws is much better than one! :-)

Best Luck.

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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Brawler

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#5 posted 01-09-2020 11:58 AM


Very Super Cool Tools has a video on making custom rails for a their T-Square style fence. In the video the dude pics it up and moves it over to use as a router table fence. So that is one option. The VSCT fences use an aluminum extrusion so you could just purchase the T section and get a custom extrusion the length you need for 80/20 or TNutz. I think they both sell custom lengths.

Personally I feel like 2 saws back to back sharing a fence, if i didnt misunderstand what you want, is a recipe for inaccuracy. Id be looking at getting some Bessey style rails for each and the VSCT fence since its aluminum and light weight. Just swap back and forth as needed. Use one lens for the Uni and the other lens for the C-Man

- sansoo22


I think you misunderstood me, I don’t want to put them back to back I want them side by side. I will post a photo when I get home this evening.

-- Daniel, Pontiac, MI

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Brawler

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#6 posted 01-09-2020 12:09 PM



I use, and suggest the Vega fences. Both the Pro s and the Home Owner styles work the same, it s just the Pro is a larger fence, like on a Beis, but much more accurate due to the micro-adjuster mechanism on them.

I see you are in Michigan, if you ever travel South on 75 you drive withing 6 miles of me. I d try to see each of what is suggested. Hands on is the best way to suss this out. Are there any big woodworking tool centers near you? If there is, go there, and look over what they offer. Kick the tires.

I had read a lot about these new Very Super Cool Tools fences. When I finally saw one, I wasn t very impressed.

- therealSteveN


Yeah, there is a Rockler in Novi and that is a good idea to go and look at them. I almost always do a bunch of research on anything I buy. Getting ideas and opinions from the LJ family is just my first step.

-- Daniel, Pontiac, MI

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Brawler

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#7 posted 01-09-2020 12:23 PM



Easy peasy.
Mounting your 2nd table saw next to your Unisaw is no different than putting an router table as your saw extension table. You can then use the same high quality fence for both tools.

1) Build a platform/cabinet to support your Craftsman saw that sits next to your Unisaw.

2) Buy or Build ANY Biesemeyer style fence that is long enough to reach across both saws.
(Guessing you want the larger one with 54” cut capacity, as it the main tube 7 long. The shorter 34” capacity fence is ~5 long. All depends on shop size?)

3) Mount the front rail of the fence to front of BOTH saws.
The front rail is a 1/4 thick piece of angle iron, and will easily keep both saws aligned. Once mounted up, then you can fix your craftsman saw base to the cabinet, and cabinet to Unisaw to make an integrated workstation.

Use it and be happy!

There are all kinds of posts in WWW on how to make a table saw workstation and even a couple that show two table saw workstation with saws side by side.
Woodsmith has plans for one example:
https://www.woodsmithplans.com/plan/table-saw-workcenter/

and this post:
https://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/viewer-projects/justins-tablesaw-workstation/

No, you are not first to want two saws.
Some folks even have two Unisaw mounted back to back; so the out feed table for each is side table for the other. Having two saws is much better than one! :-)

Best Luck.

- CaptainKlutz

Captain, we can always count on a detailed articulate response from you, thanks for the info you have posted. (I’ve have read many of your posts). Yeah, when I come across a smoking good deal on another Unisaw the C-man will be replaced. The first Unisaw I got for free, not counting a little sweat equity.

-- Daniel, Pontiac, MI

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dwl

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#8 posted 01-18-2020 03:59 AM

Incra user here, but I think the suggestion from CaptainKlutz is probably what I would consider.
Having a single rail would simplify things.

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#9 posted 01-18-2020 04:40 AM

I have a pair of Walker Turner table saws that I have side by side. I actually bolted the two extension wings together, and put both on mobile bases. It’s a bit cumbersome at about 7’ wide, but better than having to unbolt and move them individually with out wheels.

I use the same Beisemeyer style fence for both saws (Mine’s an Excalibur, but I don’t believe they’re around anymore). I have a 52” fence, so the rails extend in front of both perfectly). The key is to make sure you square the blades up to the fence, not the other way around. Presumably you’re not going to be running both saws at the same time, so sharing a fence is no big deal. If you find you want two fences, with the Beisemeyer style fences, there are a bunch of options out there to pick up just a fence, and use the same set of rails for both.

Not a very good picture, because it wasn’t the main focus of the picture, but this is my set up currently

-- Mos - Twin Cities, MN - http://www.youtube.com/MosquitoMods - http://www.TheModsquito.com

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#10 posted 01-18-2020 05:08 AM

On a saw I don’t use often and planned to replace, I would build John Heisz wood fence.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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Brawler

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#11 posted 01-20-2020 06:54 PM



I have a pair of Walker Turner table saws that I have side by side. I actually bolted the two extension wings together, and put both on mobile bases. It s a bit cumbersome at about 7 wide, but better than having to unbolt and move them individually with out wheels.

I use the same Beisemeyer style fence for both saws (Mine s an Excalibur, but I don t believe they re around anymore). I have a 52” fence, so the rails extend in front of both perfectly). The key is to make sure you square the blades up to the fence, not the other way around. Presumably you re not going to be running both saws at the same time, so sharing a fence is no big deal. If you find you want two fences, with the Beisemeyer style fences, there are a bunch of options out there to pick up just a fence, and use the same set of rails for both.

Not a very good picture, because it wasn t the main focus of the picture, but this is my set up currently

- Mosquito


YES!, that is exactly what I have in mind. Those are some nice saws, thanks for the advise.

-- Daniel, Pontiac, MI

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