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12-29-2019 06:19 PM

Topic tags/keywords: cabinet scraper burnisher

I finally (after 5 years of wood working) purchased a cabinet scraper and a burnisher. The gentleman working at my local Woodcraft swears by cabinet scrapers and he convinced me using a cabinet scraper is really a good idea. While reading the instructions on getting a scraper ready for use and I realized it is a PITA. Before I reach the point of not being able to return them I want to get y’alls’ collective opinion. Is this something useful or is this another separator (separates one from one’s money)?

-- measure 3 times, cut once


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#1 posted 12-29-2019 06:30 PM

As with any woodworking tool or machine, the value or utility depends on the user’s willingness to learn, use, maintain, etc. so the answer to your question rests with you. Do you build cabinets? Do you devote time to learning and applying manual techniques? Do you already know your answer to your question?

-- Phil Allin - There are mountain climbers and people who talk about climbing mountains. The climbers have "selfies" at the summit!

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#2 posted 12-29-2019 06:55 PM

Is it a cabinet scraper plane or a card scraper. Cabinet scrapers are much more difficult to setup.

-- Aj

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#3 posted 12-29-2019 07:04 PM

Todd has a pretty good explanation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3sqDWFAA0s

-- I only know what I know, nothing less, nothing more -- That doesn't count what I used to know..

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#4 posted 12-29-2019 07:26 PM

They are definitely useful. I wouldn’t say it’s an absolute necessity to have one but, once you get the hang of it, it’s something you’ll likely reach for often.

LeeRoyMan’s video link looks like a good one (actually a two-parter). I’ll be watching it for sure to see if there are any cool tips I can pick up.

I do recommend getting a good burnisher—preferably carbide. The old side-of-the-screwdriver trick doesn’t do the job, and a cheap one won’t be any better.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#5 posted 12-29-2019 09:08 PM

I love using a cabinet scraper. I use them all the time.

Once you do the initial set up, it takes seconds to tune them up again. Much like many hand tools – chisels, planes, etc.

They aren’t a requirement, and many folks may not care for them as much as I do. But, they have become a very important part of my regular work.

-- John F. SoCal transplant, chewer uppper of good wood

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#6 posted 12-29-2019 09:33 PM

I wouldn’t call one necessary but I would call them super useful once you get the hang of them. I have around a dozen or so I use quite regularly. Some have curves, some have flex, and others are quite rigid. Just kind of depends on what I need one for.

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#7 posted 12-29-2019 09:56 PM

Card scraper, Cabinet scraper or Scraping plane all do different things, but they are only necessary when you really need one! Start with a card scrapper or 2, learn to tune it and use it then work your way up.
P.S. I keep wishing for a Bearkat card scraper but one has yet to appear?

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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#8 posted 12-29-2019 10:01 PM


P.S. I keep wishing for a Bearkat card scraper but one has yet to appear?

- Andre

Weird. I wished for one and it arrived. You must be doing something wrong. Very handy scraper, btw.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#9 posted 12-29-2019 10:10 PM

A card scraper is a necessity in my shop. It’s one of my go to tools. That reminds me I need to sharpen mine up today.

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#10 posted 12-29-2019 10:22 PM

i use an assortment of finger scrapers quite a lot. They’re useful for smoothing the background of relief carvings and other hard to reach spaces.

-- Phil Allin - There are mountain climbers and people who talk about climbing mountains. The climbers have "selfies" at the summit!

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#11 posted 12-29-2019 11:00 PM



Weird. I wished for one and it arrived. You must be doing something wrong.
- Rich

Yep….I wished for a Winchester Model 70 Super Grade for Christmas, and I’ll be damned…Next thing I knew, I owned one!

-- “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” – Plato

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#12 posted 12-29-2019 11:11 PM


Yep….I wished for a Winchester Model 70 Super Grade for Christmas, and I ll be damned…Next thing I knew, I owned one!

- Tony_S

That’ll do more than put your eye out. What caliber?

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#13 posted 12-29-2019 11:20 PM



That ll do more than put your eye out. What caliber?

- Rich

.270Win
Now I have to wish for some glass for it :)

-- “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” – Plato

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#14 posted 12-29-2019 11:24 PM

I bought LN 112 large scraping plane several years ago. It sat on my shelf, unused for a long time. I recently built my daughter a chest of drawers of curly hard maple. All of my bench planes, including a LN 4 1/2 with a high angle frog, tore the curly maple badly. I tuned up the 112 and went to work. It was a new ballgame, no tearout and it left a great surface. It has a learning curve and it takes some fiddling to get it working, but it’s a game changer if you have something your bench planes struggle with. If you stick to tame hardwoods, I wouldn’t say a cabinet scraper is an essential tool. If you work difficult grained woods with hand tools, it is probably an essential tool.

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#15 posted 12-29-2019 11:48 PM

I use a card scraper and cabinet scraper on everything I build. Even perfect planes with perfect setups will have small areas of tear out where the grain takes a turn. Sanding (IMHO) closes the pores of the wood and scraping leaves them open, so I think the finish looks better.

Word to the wise: They work great, but getting setup is a bit of a trick, but once learned you will never forget.

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