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sansoo22

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12-25-2019 02:02 AM

So I message a guy about a planer and he asks if I want to pick up a Shop Smith Model 10ER from 1952 for $200 bucks as well. I have no idea what one is so I hit the Googles and I’m still confused what it is. From what I can tell its a drill press, disc sander, table saw, lathe, and possibly kitchen sink.

Here is the tool in question.

The guy says it has all the accessories that originally came with it including the manual. I guess my main questions are is it worth $200 bucks and would it make a decent starter lathe? I’ve never turned a thing in my life but it looks pretty fun.

Also if its a decent buy what do i need to check besides make sure it runs?


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Redoak49

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#1 posted 12-25-2019 02:39 AM

I had one and used it as a drill press. It uses a step pulley system and is ok but takes up quite a bit of space.

Would I buy it, probably not.

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#2 posted 12-25-2019 03:08 AM

Thanks. The drill press feature is what interested me the most since i dont have one. And i have a few projects coming up id like to turn some legs for. Having a tool that does both did worry me since most things I’ve ever owned that try to do more than on task just seem to be “ok” at everything and not great at anything.

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#3 posted 12-25-2019 07:26 AM

I looked at a ER10 in my area last spring, was built in 1952, he was asking $250. He had all the attachments except the band saw. With all the extra attachments and accessories he was throwing in, I should have bought it for a extra lathe. But it only had a 1/2hp motor on it.

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#4 posted 12-25-2019 09:14 AM

I have a 1950 10ER.
If you need a drill press it is a great one with table options not many drill presses offer. Also it is not a shabby lathe either. I have lots of other tools but just to show off what a 10ER could do I used it as the only stationary tool on this project. The Google album link will show all the operations I used it for.
The precision achievable is very high. This was a quality machine in its day and still is.

Click for details: Oops!

https://goo.gl/photos/wBkBv2M1ur9B3usV9

-- Paul M ..............the early bird may get the worm but it’s the second mouse that gets the cheese! http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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sansoo22

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#5 posted 12-25-2019 03:39 PM


I have a 1950 10ER.
If you need a drill press it is a great one with table options not many drill presses offer. Also it is not a shabby lathe either. I have lots of other tools but just to show off what a 10ER could do I used it as the only stationary tool on this project. The Google album link will show all the operations I used it for.
The precision achievable is very high. This was a quality machine in its day and still is.

https://goo.gl/photos/wBkBv2M1ur9B3usV9

- shipwright

First that curio cabinet is crazy awesome. Second the style of legs you put on it with the contrasting “foot” is almost exactly what I had in mind for a couple projects coming up.

The guy messaged me last night and said he found a handful of turning chisels that will go with it. I also checked ebay and there is quite a few parts still available if any little thing is missing for it.

I think as long as the motor runs well and the quill isn’t seized up or binding I will pick it up. I like learning new things and restoring old tools and this will give me a bit of both.

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shipwright

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#6 posted 12-25-2019 04:03 PM

The things that make a 10ER more attractive are having the original legs / base and having the (optional at the time) speed changer. I got lucky and the one I found had both. This one however looks like it’s in a lot better shape than mine was. It’s definitely worth the money in running shape but you might keep an eye on ebay for a speed changer. They aren’t easy to come by as there weren’t as many made as there were machines but worth it if you can get one at a reasonable price.
If you buy it, join the ShopSmith forum. There are lots of knowledgeable members there who will be a great help.

-- Paul M ..............the early bird may get the worm but it’s the second mouse that gets the cheese! http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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#7 posted 12-25-2019 06:07 PM

Looking at the picture, it looks to be in good condition. I don’t have one now, but years ago I bought a 10ER for $100 and that included the jig saw attachment. It got me started in woodworking. Keep in mind it uses saw blades with a 1-1/4” hole, so that limits the blades that are available. Other than that, it is a competent machine.

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BuckeyeDennis

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#8 posted 12-25-2019 08:50 PM

New saw-blade arbors are available from Shopsmith for either 1-1/4” or 5/8” bores. Those will also fit the vintage Magne 10E’s and 10ER’s. Both of mine came with 5/8” arbors.

If you’re tight on space and only need the drill-press function, the machine can easily be set up as a dedicated drill press. And it’s an excellent one.

Neither of the ones below are mine, BTW.


-- Dennis 'We are all faced with a series of great opportunities, brilliantly disguised as impossible situations.' Charles Swindoll

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Eric

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#9 posted 12-25-2019 09:06 PM

I’m in the cult (mark V) but I have to say I almost never use the drill press mode. It’s not that easy to use because theres no easy method of adjusting the table height. For $200 you’re a long way towards a dedicated floor drill press with rack for the table off CL. I know it sounds petty but after 30 years with a rack-less drill press I’ll never go back.

-- Eric

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#10 posted 12-25-2019 09:13 PM

I have two 10er’s. They are great old iron. I have one dedicated as a drill press, and was using one as a lathe until I purchased a Jet 1640. Important point is that both of mine came with a speed changer which is very helpful in use as a lathe or drill press.

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#11 posted 12-26-2019 06:53 PM

I ended up picking up the Shop Smith for better or worse. Here is pics of everything I got today for $400 bucks. It was actually a 60 yr old woman selling it that stood about 6’ 2” and helped me load this beast into my 4×4 tacoma. Needless to say I would never mess with that lady.

Planer. Nothing fancy but in my area they go for $300 all the time so getting one with a stand for $200 was quite a deal.

Here is the Model 10ER. Barely any rust on the rails at all. Nothing i can’t get polished out. Motor runs strong and the quill was kept oiled even tho she never used it. The upper stepper pulley seems to have some bearing chatter. Guessing that’s a simple fix. And it will need a new belt of course

Here is all the stuff that came with it. Not as much accessories as i thought was coming with it but i also dont need them all. Turning and drilling is all I plan to use this for. Not pictured is the tail fence which I don’t really have a use for either

And finally a set of lathe chisels. These are Craftsman bought shortly after the Shop Smith was purchased. Some have seen some pretty heavy use but all still have the C-Man logo and no rust what so ever. I have no idea how they rate for chisel quality but I will learn to sharpen them and try them out.

Her father used this primarily to turn bowls on and she used it a few times as a drill press and then it was stored for several years only being brought out to keep it clean and oiled.

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BuckeyeDennis

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#12 posted 12-27-2019 01:55 AM

Congrats, she looks to be in great shape. Most of them need some elbow grease to restore them to good working condition. You done good!

-- Dennis 'We are all faced with a series of great opportunities, brilliantly disguised as impossible situations.' Charles Swindoll

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#13 posted 01-02-2020 04:31 PM

Congratulations,
I have three 10ER’s, mine all came with 3/4 hp motors. :)
One is set up as a dedicated drill press. I added a gas strut to that one to make adjusting the table height easy,
The strut (~30 lb) just balances the weight of the table so it is easy to raise or lower but holds it’s position till the lock is engaged. Thread detailing the build. https://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/general-woodworking-f5/drill-press-table-lift-assist-for10er-t16014.html

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sansoo22

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#14 posted 01-02-2020 04:52 PM



Congratulations,
I have three 10ER s, mine all came with 3/4 hp motors. :)
One is set up as a dedicated drill press. I added a gas strut to that one to make adjusting the table height easy,
The strut (~30 lb) just balances the weight of the table so it is easy to raise or lower but holds it s position till the lock is engaged. Thread detailing the build. https://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/general-woodworking-f5/drill-press-table-lift-assist-for10er-t16014.html

- rpd

Thanks for the link RPD. Mine will spend 90% of its life as a DP and occasionally be used to turn tool handles or spindle style legs. I really like that strut idea. Because I’m more artist than engineer I will probably use a stainless steel strut with remanned or ebay 10ER knobs to mount the brackets. That way its a resto-mod that looks like it sort of belongs and is easy to remove when the machine is laid down for lathe work.

Unfortunately mine only has the 1/2 hp motor but lucky for all us Model 10 owners that MKC Tool has new 1 hp motors with digital speed control if you want to spend the $$$ for one. For what folks are charging for a good working speed changer, if you can even find one, the motor with speed control isn’t really that much more.

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