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Forum topic by kyngfish posted 12-20-2019 07:00 PM 841 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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kyngfish

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12-20-2019 07:00 PM

Hey all. So up until now I’ve used a Bosch 4100 and it’s fine. But in trying to adjust things like the fence and blade to get things as square as I can – I find that its adjustability is more in quotes than in reality. Would buying a used delta table saw or something similar be a meaningful step up? Any other recs?


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#1 posted 12-20-2019 07:16 PM

Your saw is considered a portable jobsite saw, and is lightweight (read: lots of plastic) so it can be easily moved from site to site. As such, it’s designed to do rough job-site stuff and not really precision work. It also suffers from the use of a universal screamer motor that is much less robust than a real induction motor, and can be easily damaged if pushed too hard. When used within its limits, it is a fine machine and there are a lot of people who are more than happy with theirs. For someone who infrequently needs a saw, it is more than adequate. If portability and space is not really a concern, then an upgrade would definitely be worthwhile.

The question is – how much and what do you want to do with a saw? If you need additional precision and/or capacity, then an upgrade is well worth it. You can find suitable used machines all day long for $100 and up, many that will come with extra goodies like mobile bases, upgraded fences, etc… C-man and Delta contractor saws can be found all day long in the $100-$200 range and would be the next logical step up. If you are patient, you can even find a nice used Unisaw in that price range :)

Cheers,
Brad

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#2 posted 12-20-2019 07:40 PM

What you need depends on what you want to do. Model makers use little (but expensive) 4” saws, then jobsite saws, contractors saws, hybrids, cabinet saws & big 12” 5hp triple drive belt Powermatics. The list is in price and capability order.

M

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#3 posted 12-21-2019 02:45 AM

I use a DeWalt jobsite saw. Its the DWE7491RS and is quite a nice saw for what it is. I’ve probably tuned it to as good as that thing can possibly get. And while i was doing small projects it worked great. Now that my interests have shifted towards furniture, built-ins, etc for my new home it just doesnt cut it anymore…pun intended. Not really due to its accuracy but more its limited footprint. Its hard to make long clean rips on a small table top and fence.

Personally I’ve been looking at used contractor saws right now. I could spring for a hybrid but when budget allows the entire shop is getting outfitted with electrical capacity for larger tools so the added cost of a hybrid doesnt make much financial sense to me.

I can share some pointers I’ve picked up from purchasing used tools. Do your homework ahead of time. If you wait for the jocks here to confirm its a good buy chances are someone else already bought it. Take the suggested prices you find here as a mere ballpark figure. Each area is different. I couldnt touch a Delta contractor saw for under 300 where I live. Be willing to travel a bit to find a good deal. If you live in a large metro prices will be higher but a few hours outside the city where its harder to get buyers you might find better deals.

I’ve lost out on a couple good contractor saws by not following these guidelines. Now it seems there is a drought on well maintained used saws.

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#4 posted 12-21-2019 04:31 PM



I ve lost out on a couple good contractor saws by not following these guidelines. Now it seems there is a drought on well maintained used saws.

- sansoo22


I think part of that is seasonal. I monitor FB marketplace and Craigslist, and as the weather’s gotten colder, there is much less of everything available. I’m on the hunt for a bandsaw and have resigned myself to wait until spring.

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#5 posted 12-21-2019 04:52 PM

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#6 posted 12-22-2019 10:42 PM

They pop up now and then so if you have time keep watching. I just recently bought a 10” delta 34-441 in fine shape with a Unifence for $100. larry

-- Just a barn cat, now gone to cat heaven.

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#7 posted 12-23-2019 03:44 AM



I think part of that is seasonal. I monitor FB marketplace and Craigslist, and as the weather’s gotten colder, there is much less of everything available. I m on the hunt for a bandsaw and have resigned myself to wait until spring.

- cmacnaughton

I was wondering if that was it. I picked up a couple sweet deals right around thanksgiving just in time for holiday shopping season. One was my overarm pin router that I wasn’t even planning to buy. Since then the pickings have gotten might slim. I will still keep an eye out but wont get my hopes up.

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#8 posted 12-24-2019 10:18 PM

The Unifence by itself is worth >$100!

Andy

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#9 posted 12-25-2019 02:14 AM

It sure is to me Andy.
larry

-- Just a barn cat, now gone to cat heaven.

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#10 posted 12-26-2019 04:18 PM

As a person who started out with the Bosch 4100 (used it for a good 3-4 years happily) and still retain it for cutting MDF outside or other reasons… I upgraded to a Unisaw cabinet saw.
So… I’ll say what is in the back of everyone’s mind: go cabinet saw :) Used. Craigslist. I got my Unisaw for $500 on there. Granted, had to tear it down to the bearings, nuts, and bolts and then rebuild it (was more so for fun as it worked as it came home).
You started off with the Bosch 4100. Now, go get a used cabinet saw. Lots of “ifs” involved such as do you have good dust collection systems, do you have 220v outlets, do you have real estate, etc.
I say Unisaw because they are frequent and affordable on Craigslist. Whatever route you go, get a saw with a Beiseymeyer fence (never can spell that word correctly).

-- The Carpenter Bee is derived from the Ancient Greek word wood-cutter "xylokopos/ξυλοκὀπος"

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