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grained

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12-16-2019 07:06 PM

Topic tags/keywords: veneering joining finishing cherry maple walnut arts and crafts

I’m working on a small inlay piece for my mom for Christmas. Pointsetta focus point, with pretty stuff on the corners.

To meet my timeline I need to glue up tomorrow which will not allow me time to get to a shop to get hide glue. Options? My hardware store does have gorilla, five minute epoxy, and multiple varieties of titebond.

Wood

used so far is cherry and poplar raw veneer. I will be adding maple, walnut, and mahogany to the outside. This will be the lid for a 14×14 box containing a puzzle of my recently deceased father.

-- ~too many hobbies, not enough free time.


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HokieKen

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#1 posted 12-16-2019 08:00 PM

I can’t really offer great advice but, I have used Titebond II and used water to thin it when gluing up thin sheets before. I wanted to make sure I had full area coverage but not end up with any lumps under the veneers. Seemed to work well but it was a one-time project that I ended up scrapping so take it with a grain of salt!

Best of luck and the project looks fantastic! Sorry for your loss as well.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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shipwright

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#2 posted 12-16-2019 08:32 PM

Got any Knox gelatin in the cupboard? .....or at the grocery store nearby?
It is in fact a food grade 220 gram strength hide glue.
Mix and use it as you would any other hot hide glue.

-- Paul M ..............the early bird may get the worm but it’s the second mouse that gets the cheese! http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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#3 posted 12-16-2019 10:24 PM

If you cant get out to buy something you are in a bind. I would have suggested Hide glue.
The original product sold as Gorilla glue was a urethane that expanded (foams if not clamped) as it cures so I certainly would not us that.
One of the thick varieties of CA glue would probably work in a pinch as it is relatively slow to set up…2 to 5 minutes.
Tightbond II or III may be too “wet” to use on a thin veneer.
I would think epoxy would go on to thick and be hard to level out and if it squeezes out it will be a mess.
Hot glue might work as you could apply it to the backing, lay the veneer in place and then use a hot clothes iron (maybe with a cloth between it and the veneer) thereby re-melting the glue causing the veneer to stick as it cools. Squeeze out could be scrapped off.

Which ever you try to a test first.

-- Les B, Oregon

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#4 posted 12-16-2019 10:41 PM

If you are using paper backed veneer, contact cement might be a good choice. Without the paper backing, it might bleed through. So, don’t use it without the paper back.

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#5 posted 12-16-2019 10:53 PM

Titebond Quick & Thick dries really fast. It might be too thick to work well for your inlay, though. Might be worth a test if it’s one of the available options.

-- https://www.jtplaneworks.com - In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

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#6 posted 12-17-2019 12:48 AM

That is beautiful work and a great tribute!! And .... I’m learning glue techniques along with you …. LJ’s are the best folks! :)

-- Marty, Long Island, NY

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#7 posted 12-17-2019 01:00 AM

What ever shipwright says go with. Not many on here better than he is.

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#8 posted 12-17-2019 01:09 AM



What ever shipwright says go with. Not many on here better than he is.

- corelz125


+1

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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grained

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#9 posted 12-17-2019 05:00 PM

If it helps I do plan on doing a flood coat over it. I’ve done a lot of flood coating. Really should post those projects up now that they have hit the world.
I’m going to hit ace hardware tomight. I have bondo blades so I can scrape down pretty thin. Flood coat should prevent curlup. Fingers crossed.

-- ~too many hobbies, not enough free time.

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#10 posted 12-17-2019 05:13 PM

Have you considered hot glue they make fairly small size hot glue guns or what about using a 22 ga nail gun and a shoot it together using a minimal about of the glue you have on hand , most of the nearly invisible nails could be placed from behind and if necessary even in exposed areas, the only issue is if you have a 22 ga gun and getting nails short enough to use on a thin project without having to nip them off the back of the project.

https://www.artisticwoodstudio.com/videos

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#11 posted 12-17-2019 06:02 PM

That is a stunning design.
I have no advice but am following this post for the great suggestions and I can’t wait to see how it turns out.
What a beautiful gift for your mom.
Jon

Shipwright,
Very interesting…. any suggestions or links for a novice using 220 gram strength hide glue for the first time?
I have a feeling you may have a post or two or some links on that subject.
Much appreciated.

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shipwright

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#12 posted 12-18-2019 12:25 AM

Knox gelatin is the same thing as hot hide glue and you use it exactly the same way. This blog covers all that.
https://www.lumberjocks.com/shipwright/blog/series/5437
At 220 gram strength it will be a little faster (less open time) than 192 gram but not substantially.

I use nothing but hide glue for veneer work.

-- Paul M ..............the early bird may get the worm but it’s the second mouse that gets the cheese! http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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#13 posted 12-18-2019 01:54 AM

Thank you Paul,
and Grained,
Please be sure to post some finished pics.
This looks beautiful.
jon

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#14 posted 12-22-2019 02:09 AM

This is a late reply but, maybe it will help. I haven’t used it but I read that the Daps Rapid Fuse sets in 30 seconds and cures completely in 30 minutes.

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