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sansoo22

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12-08-2019 06:14 PM

I’ve never owned a router table before. Heck I’ve never had a router bigger than a trim router before. I went and picked up this combo today for $260. I don’t know much about the table other than it was built in 1989 and was used by a serious hobbyist wood worker who recently passed.

The porter cable router is an old USA model 10 amp that stills runs but has seen plenty of use. The Milwaukee that came with the package deal has had maybe 4 or 5 boards run across it. The plastic body still has that new “oily” feel to it.

If anyone has used one of these tables before feel free to give me any pointers or pitfalls. Or if i made a bad purchase feel free to call me dumb. I have the material on hand to build a new fence with a T-track slot in it. I need to figure out a dust collection solution and I will probably take the whole upper steal frame that houses the table and arm off so I can mount them on a different rolling cabinet. Maybe pick up one of the prefabbed Rockler steel frame cabs and build some drawers into it. And who knows maybe I will figure out how to build a router lift into the bottom of the table at some point.


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#1 posted 12-08-2019 08:46 PM

I won’t call you dumb, in fact, you get a Lumberjocks “You Suck!” from me. Overarm pin router with two routers for the price you paid is a steal!

-- "My greatest fear is that upon my demise, my wife will sell my tools for what I said I paid for them."

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#2 posted 12-09-2019 02:25 AM

All that for 260 bux, you did well, and you will love that overarm router if you do any duplicates work.

Nice score.

If you didn't get any documentation this will help.

https://www.shopsmith.com/academy/routing2/022403.pdf

Back when I didn’t need to own one. I just used the one in the Academy at ShopSmith. Now I would love to have one. All I find are junk, or 1500 bux and up. Sometimes ya wish you had just gotten one when they were more available. I can’t impress on you enough what a deal you made.

-- Think safe, be safe

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#3 posted 12-09-2019 05:25 AM

Thanks guys. Normally I search the forums pretty heavily before making any tool purchases. I had never even seen one of these before and google wasn’t bringing up much about them so I took a risk and went for it.

Steven – Thank you so much for that documentation link. I had found bits and pieces of that doc but never the full thing. So many ideas in there of new things I can attempt to build. I think the first one is going to be the dovetail keys for a small box.

My new 2 car garage shop is coming along quite nicely with this addition. I need a planer and a belt/disc sander then its on to saving up to gut the whole thing and rewire it for bigger tools. Seems strange to outfit a shop when you already have plans to redo it all but that’s going to take awhile so may as well get some projects done before that.

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#4 posted 12-10-2019 04:12 PM

Congrats on the steal! I bought one on CL a few years ago, and it’s one of my favorite tools.

Recommended upgrades:

1) My table had a bit of sag, so I added angle-iron stiffeners beneath the table.

2) The stock fence leaves a lot to be desired. I bought a JessEm Master Fence II for mine—they mount easily, and are a great fence with good dust collection.

3) I bought the big Triton TRA001 router to go undertable—it’s built-in lift function is a pretty good substitute for a real router lift, and its above-table single-wrench bit changing works like a charm.

4) Mounting a shaft collar on the vertical column, just beneath the arm, makes repositioning the arm tremendously easier.

In addition to cranking out parts repetitively, you’ll be able to do some beautiful inlay work with the overarm router. Here’s a couple pics of a cherry butterfly inlay that I did in some scrap QS Sycamore as a test.

If you’d like more details on any of the upgrades, I did a thread on them over at the Shopsmith forum:
https://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/woodworking-tool-review-f9/tricked-out-overarm-pin-router-t18323.html

Have fun with it!

-- Dennis 'We are all faced with a series of great opportunities, brilliantly disguised as impossible situations.' Charles Swindoll

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#5 posted 12-10-2019 08:30 PM

Nice addition Dennis.

Go Bucs….

-- Think safe, be safe

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#6 posted 12-12-2019 01:51 AM



All that for 260 bux, you did well, and you will love that overarm router if you do any duplicates work.

Nice score.

If you didn t get any documentation this will help.

https://www.shopsmith.com/academy/routing2/022403.pdf

Back when I didn t need to own one. I just used the one in the Academy at ShopSmith. Now I would love to have one. All I find are junk, or 1500 bux and up. Sometimes ya wish you had just gotten one when they were more available. I can t impress on you enough what a deal you made.

- therealSteveN

One just popped up on CL in your part of the state. Asking price is $175, and it appears to be in decent condition.

https://dayton.craigslist.org/tls/d/gettysburg-shop-smith-pin-router/7036806614.html

As of a couple years ago, you could still get new table plates, inserts, and pins from Shopsmith.

-- Dennis 'We are all faced with a series of great opportunities, brilliantly disguised as impossible situations.' Charles Swindoll

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#7 posted 12-13-2019 03:39 PM

Charles – Yours is in much shinier shape than mine. But I plan to take the top “C” section with the arm off and mount on a nice custom built cabinet.

Good point on the angle iron. I didn’t notice any sag in the table but may was well prevent it before it happens. I planned to build a custom fence for it but if the Jessem is a direct bolt on then that seems the better option. Lastly do you have a link or anything for the shaft collar you used? I was going to adjust the arm the other day to finish polishing the shaft but wanted a stop point for it and that seems like a brilliant idea.

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#8 posted 12-13-2019 05:33 PM

I bought the 2-3/4” shaft collar from Amazon. It costs more now than when I bought it, but I just checked McMaster-Carr, and they charge considerably more.

https://www.amazon.com/Climax-2C-275-Two-Piece-Clamping-Plating/dp/B0025Q1R7C/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

-- Dennis 'We are all faced with a series of great opportunities, brilliantly disguised as impossible situations.' Charles Swindoll

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#9 posted 12-13-2019 05:54 PM

Thanks Dennis. I can’t get free until Monday, but I sent him an email, if he still has it late Sunday I’m going to head over Monday morning.

-- Think safe, be safe

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#10 posted 12-13-2019 09:00 PM

Thanks for the link to the collar. Ordered and on its way. I’m hoping to have time to get this thing cleaned and shiny this weekend. If i do i will post some more pics of it.

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#11 posted 01-14-2020 03:52 AM

Digging up my own post because I final got around to put some work into this thing. Unfortunately it didn’t all go as planned.

The table is all cleaned and lightly sanded with 600 grit to remove scratches. The plastic insert plate could use replaced but i cant find one anywhere so chances are I will have to make one. But i have a planer now so should be easy enough to do using the original as a template.

I picked up a second matching Milwaukee router using a gift card I got for Christmas. This one came with a case and the plunge base. I went with the milwaukee so that all of the accessories matched and because it has a similar height adjustment mechanism as the triton.

Here it is with the twin red machines

The bad news is the fence I made will not sit perpendicular to the table face. The brackets the fence mounts to are not perpendicular.

It works if you’re just routing edges and laying a board flat against the table but if i wanted to do anything complex it wont cut it. Once the chauffeurs refill a bit from all the latest tool spends I’m splurging for the Jess Em master fence that Dennis suggested.

In the meantime i’ve got the cabinet carcass all wrapped up tonight to transplant the table and steel arm assembly. Will post more as i get further along with that.

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#12 posted 01-15-2020 01:45 PM

Until you get that Jessem fence, you should be able to shim your shop-made fence square. A few layers of shim tape, or even ordinary masking tape, along the top edge of the aluminum fence brackets should get you to 90 degrees pretty easily.

https://www.mcmaster.com/shim-tape

-- Dennis 'We are all faced with a series of great opportunities, brilliantly disguised as impossible situations.' Charles Swindoll

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#13 posted 01-15-2020 04:27 PM

Thanks Dennis. I will give the shim-tape a shot. I’m kicking myself for not building the fence before buying the other router. Spent $180 on the router out the door but for a little more could have gotten the Jess’Em and upgraded my top router later.

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#14 posted 01-19-2020 02:07 AM

Made some major progress on the cabinet this week. Just about ready to start trimming it out and finishing the door and drawer fronts.

Here we go test fitting the arm assembly. The inner cabinet sides aren’t fully attached yet if you see gaps

Test fitting some things in the top drawer. The wrench box can be removed or it slides. Under it will be where I keep my router bits. I may eventually need more space but right now i dont have but a handful.

Bottom drawer is consumed by the Milwaukee case but it holds my plunge base and another fixed base plus extras so i made the drawer just for it

Here is a close up of the dust port. Its a big 6” port. I will be cutting some slots in the front cabinet to get proper air flow to this monster

Finally test fitting the table top

Still quite a bit to do but feels good to get it test fitted and find out most of my measurements were good. Had to add some 1/2 spacers to give room around the arm rails but if that’s the worst thing to happen i will take it.

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#15 posted 01-20-2020 01:59 AM

Didn’t get a ton done today. Feeling a bit under the weather so moving kind of slow and made some dumb mistakes.

First up I put the arm assembly in, drilled a hole for a cord grommet, attached the inner cabinet walls and realized i forgot to install the bolts.

Had to take the inner cab panels back out and then had a heck of a time reaching down the side tunnels to tighten up the carriage head bolts. So I improvised and drilled some holes right where the bolts go. It will get covered anyway so no big deal.

Finally got the whole top put together and buttoned up…then i realized i forgot to put on the metal braces that Dennis recommended.

So tomorrow will be taking the top back off so i can add the metal braces and if im feeling better getting it all sanded and ready for trim.

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