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Karda

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12-07-2019 04:13 PM

Hi, Next march i am going to Texas, I want to ship back a piece or 2 of wood if I can find some. what should i do after i get the wood. The wood will travel from Texas to Elmira NY. its a lot damper here than there. i will be looking for mesquite, eucalyptus, or paloverde. thanks


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ocean

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#1 posted 12-07-2019 06:09 PM

First you need to check on weather you can send the boards across state lines. Different laws in each state can make this hard to do without proper documentation. Check with you supplier in Texas, they should know the rules and regulations on cross border transport. Rules exist due to wood diseases/insects.

When you get it home you need to sticker your boards to allow air flow between boards. Keep it dry, and covered if outdoors. If indoors more of the same but you will not need to cover it (you may what to add a fan to move air over board). Depending on thickness you may need to acclimate to NY for a # of days – weeks or more depending on the original thickness of boards. Good luck.

-- Bob, FL Keys

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#2 posted 12-07-2019 06:18 PM

maybe I won’t bother, I will be flying and the wood will tee chunks for turning. But I may also ship a couple. thanks mike

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AZWoody

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#3 posted 12-07-2019 06:23 PM

I can get you any of those in blank form and ship to you. Just let me know what you’re interested in as well as sizes.

I don’t have many large bowl pieces but I’m always milling trees so something could always be cut to order.

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#4 posted 12-07-2019 06:26 PM

Texas is a huge state and the atmospheric moisture can vary greatly across the state. Near the south coast it can be quite humid. Usually problems occur when you take wood from humid to very dry. For example from humid western Oregon to dry Arizona. Going from dry to humid should not be much of a problem but you will need to let the wood acclimate when you get it to NY. If the wood is considered dry by the seller you will probably have no problem. Be aware that Eucalyptus is highly prone to both cracking and twisting unless it is quite old growth wood. That was a big problem for early importers of these fast growing trees who thought it would be a good lumber source only to find out it needed to be old growth to make good lumber.
As far as crossing state lines if you buy it from a commercial retail source and have the receipt there should be no problem; besides the only states that I’m aware of that have border inspection stations are Calif., Arizona, and Hawaii. Now in southern Texas you will encounter US Boarder Patrol stations in random areas at random times.

-- Les B, Oregon

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Karda

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#5 posted 12-07-2019 06:29 PM

ok thank

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#6 posted 12-08-2019 12:04 AM

Mike, ignore the folks that say that the stuff will be crossing state lines and it might be a problem. The post office only asks about whether anything is hazardous or liquid. I tell the clerk it’s wood, and never anything is said about crossing state lines. California is the only state I would hide wood when crossing it’s state lines. No restrictions entering Arizona. they stopped that a long time ago.
Also, last year I traveled through at least 20 eastern states with wood clearly visible in my open trailer. Never had an issue.
Now, you will have an issue with getting the wood you mentioned. From what I’ve been told, Texas is not known for Eucalyptus. There is not a lot of Palo Verde’s in Texas. Mesquite on the other hand, you will be overwhelmed by it’s abundance in South Texas. Get some Pecan. There’s plenty of that. Walnut, Sycamore, Ash, some Maple and probably the same stuff you have growing in your neighborhood.

If you are gonna be near Fredricksburg, I can give you a number that will get you some free woods.

Take up AZWoody’s offer. He has some good stuff.

What part of Texas???............ Jerry (in Tucson)

-- Jerry (in Tucson) www.woodturnerstools.com

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Karda

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#7 posted 12-08-2019 12:12 AM

thanks Jerry, i will be in Granbury its north of Dallas. i won’t be there to We are visiting kathys Brother. i thought if ii could get some mesquite or something else i can’t get here I’d try, How are airline with small amounts of wood.

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#8 posted 12-08-2019 12:31 AM

The emerald Ash bother caused Illinois to ban transporting wood across county lines within the state. Our Ash trees have been devastated. Insect travel is a serious issue.

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Karda

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#9 posted 12-08-2019 12:45 AM

yea i know

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#10 posted 12-08-2019 01:06 AM

+1 AZWoody. Lots of good stuff, nice person to know.

Palo verde? Not worth cost to ship IMHO.
Wet, green wood stinks bad. Kiln dry is better, but still like cat piss.. Has plain grain, and only endearing quality is some of the burl areas. It’s AZ state tree, and it grows like a weed. Free stuff everywhere from landscaping trimming, but only the turners really use it.

+1 Eucalyptus boards move a lot. Even if dried properly, it can warp/twist/cup. Woody had the largest collection of Eucalyptus I have seen in one place a couple years ago. Back then he had some massive 36” dia logs waiting to be milled. It’s another nuisance tree that grows well in AZ high heat, especially in the river bottoms/washes. Likes the crack/check when drying, so go slow.

Beware of Mesquite price gouging. Have a couple of primary mesquite mills in AZ, and they think the stuff is same as gold @ $15-$20+ bdft. Can be hard to find, but know of 2 places that only charge half or less of most, and that is for nice quality straight grain lumber. If can’t get it cheap while in Texas, just order some and have it shipped.

+1 Hauling lumber as individual across state lines is easy, and normally ignored (except for CA as stated).
The one thing everyone looks for: live edge or bark on lumber, as it considered the same as firewood (unless you have receipt showing it was kiln dried). It will be the park rangers, or DNR department that stops you, not the police. Look up firewood transportation laws if you want to know more.
If you attempt to move logs/live edge lumber via any commercial rated vehicle; then be aware that the weigh stations will check for proper paperwork with USDA lumber inspection stamps.

Enjoy your trip!

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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#11 posted 12-08-2019 02:39 AM

There are some areas of the US that have quarantines on the movement of some woods do to deceases or bug infestations.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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Karda

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#12 posted 12-08-2019 03:24 AM

i am only getting a couple small pieces for wood turning not boards. and no live edge

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#13 posted 12-08-2019 03:37 AM

Granbury is SSW of Dallas, SW of Fort Worth. Still in “north Texas” (which excludes the panhandle, strangely). Humidity varies, but not all that dry (compared to farther west in TX). Lots of mesquite and cedar, river bottoms have pecan, cotton wood, oak, etc.

Andy
Arlington TX

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Karda

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#14 posted 12-08-2019 03:41 AM

ok , ive got to get a map of Texas

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#15 posted 12-08-2019 03:35 PM



thanks Jerry, i will be in Granbury its north of Dallas. i won t be there to We are visiting kathys Brother. i thought if ii could get some mesquite or something else i can t get here I d try, How are airline with small amounts of wood.

- Karda

Airlines will cost a fortune unless it will be small enough for luggage. UPS or FedEx it for sure

-- "PLUMBER'S BUTT! Get over it, everybody has one"

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