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Forum topic by therealSteveN posted 12-05-2019 09:31 PM 443 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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therealSteveN

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12-05-2019 09:31 PM

First I had heard of them, got an email from about 4 different sources today. Says they are the company who has made tools for many companies, and now decided to market their own name. Seeing as it’s offering BCTW stuff, I am thinking it’s the company that bought out John Economaki.

Tools look like they have Sawstop, and Laguna looks. Maybe now that the look is out Torbin will be more open about where all of his Italian tools are made. It’s not Italy. I don’t think Gass has ever tried to hide that SawStops are Asian

https://www.harveywoodworking.com/?utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=79864665&_hsenc=p2ANqtz--uK7BN0LfgL7sLlxX_eLJfoxmowtupgQjjs9fEvF39iEuwOd2iDKmb1GYAoCs4mLbfdnv_Gp2N89iOaH4sfMjm0aMB8w

Something new for the tool buyers to add to the mix.

-- Think safe, be safe


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#1 posted 12-05-2019 09:37 PM

They’re the ones that released that funky new Dust Collector that’s available at Rockler ($4200). Guess the buzz surrounding it gave them confidence to move forward with a tool line. The bandsaw looks good to me, similar to the Laguna BX.

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#2 posted 12-06-2019 06:46 PM

hmm,
Harvey Industries has been selling tools direct for many years. They have sold black ‘Champion’ and/or white painted table saws, lathes, and bandsaws for very long time. They did a sales blitz when the Gyro Air line was introduced, even Woodcraft was advertising the Gyro Air. Harvey started direct sales 1st in Asia, then Europe, and now USA.

Another tidbit about Harvey: they are not a ‘cheap junk’ Chinese tool mfg. They sell themselves as high end mfg with worlds best quality, boasting with pride, all so they can charge more to OEM customers. There is tremendous amount of competition for OEM tool contracts in China. Everyone attempting to undercut the next guy, except Harvey Ind.

Harvey has a very fine line to walk doing direct sales. Since they made tools for many OEM (Sawstop, Laguna, Powermatic, etc), and the contracts all have non-compete clauses; they can not sell the same tool configuration as bought my OEM, nor can they price it cheaper.
Have to think if Harvey is moving into direct sales in USA, that maybe the loss of US OEM contracts due US tariffs might have created the opening? (Sawstop source less expensive TS to Taiwan) Usually 1-5 years after OEM contract expires, non-compete restrictions are lifted. The direct sales might be nothing more than an attempt to recover some lost business?

As some one who is participated in overseas out sourcing for an entire career; Harvey behavior is no different than GeeTech brand sold by Chiu Ting Machinery in Taiwan many decades ago. Harvey has one advantage right now, with the purchase of BCTW forcing them to staff a US location. If I was paying for Chinese/English speaking sales/service staff in USA, adding direct sales is as easy as making a website and parking a couple sea shipping containers in parking lot. Geetech never directly staffed any US sales/service. The lonely USA representative were susceptible to whims of economy and disappeared. Having a company own presence in US allows the mfg with income from making tools to tolerate a turbulent economy better.

That’s my thoughts. Thanks for reading.

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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#3 posted 12-06-2019 08:57 PM

wow those saws look pretty nice as does the price,so who wants to be first getting one and letting the rest us know how good they are? how about you TRSN since you presented it-lol. if the quality is as good as the price they could have a winner.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#4 posted 12-06-2019 09:02 PM

so who wants to be first getting one and letting the rest us know how good they are?

- pottz

That my friend is the rub, isn’t it?

FWIW they are supposed to go on sale at WoodWerks over in Columbus. I don’t get over that way all that much, but if I had a reason to go…...

The map I saw had several distinctions for what was to be carried there. If you are near a YELLOW site they are full Monte, so it may be worth a looksee, if you are in the market for some cast iron fun toy. I do know versus Grizz who is just in 2 sites in America they are gonna kick their butt on local presence. All of the Shop Fox dealers don’t carry inventory, they just order it in for the most part, so you may as well order in Griz and save $$$$$$$. With these Harvey tools looks like you should be able to kick the tires.

It may prove to be interesting. If Gass, and Torbin end up having to either eat the terms about non compete, or go to an unknown brand X maker they could lose face, and or market share. I love new competition. It’s almost always a WIN for us. :-) Snif snif, what is that I smell? Ahhhhh lower prices, coming soon the a toy store near you…..

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#5 posted 12-06-2019 11:16 PM

well for me im about 2 hrs from their head qaurters in montclair so i could actually go and kick the tires.not really in the market for a new one at the moment but if i was id be checking their saws out.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#6 posted 12-07-2019 05:58 PM

The brochure points out some interesting features not found on other saws. The miter gauge and fence are unusual and look quite good. Even though they are made in China, they are priced right up with the known quality machines.

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