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sheilatequila

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11-21-2019 03:54 PM

Topic tags/keywords: glue freezing finished work

Hello,

I took some completed projects out of storage a few weeks ago for a show next weekend and left them in my vehicle for a while. They are inside now, but I’m wondering if a few nights of below freezing temperatures could have affected them. Most items are held together with glue only, including several cutting boards, so there is a lot of glue involved. I’ve seen threads regarding using and curing glue in cold temps, but nothing about finished work. I’d hate to sell these and have them fall apart when I’m trying to build a reputation for high quality products;

All items were completed in heated space 8 months ago or longer.

Thanks.

-- - "There is no scrap wood, just pieces not yet used"


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#1 posted 11-21-2019 03:58 PM

No, freezing after the glue has completely dried will not cause any concerns. The dried glue is basically a plastic at that point. The freezing while curing is a concern because of the water in the glue. You are way past that point.

If freezing temps caused failure, then my workbench, plane till and all other shop storage would have fallen apart years ago from being in an unheated shop.

-- https://www.jtplaneworks.com - In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

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#2 posted 11-21-2019 04:05 PM

Thank you JayT. That is such a relief :)

-- - "There is no scrap wood, just pieces not yet used"

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#3 posted 11-21-2019 05:43 PM

Big humidity changes and sudden temperature swings can cause wood movement. I try to keep things in climate controlled environments (inside) to limit the opportunity. I have some nice storage boxes that I had to leave in the non climate controlled part of the garage and I can see and feel where things have moved a bit, nothing really severe, but not something I want to have happen repeatedly.

-- Earl "I'm a pessamist - generally that increases the chance that things will turn out better than expected"

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#4 posted 11-21-2019 08:35 PM

Very good point Earl. We recently moved from Alberta to Ontario, so that alone is a significant change in humidity.

Would you include a note or mention that to buyers? If anything happens, I’d rather they thought it was due to the climate change rather than workmanship.

-- - "There is no scrap wood, just pieces not yet used"

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#5 posted 11-21-2019 08:43 PM

Can’t speak for your projects (and I don’t do anything fine enough to worry about) but I know guitars are not to be left in the cold due to their finishes expanding and contracting. I do know of one somewhat famous guitarist tho that would put his new martins guitars in his cars over night in freezing conditions and then bring them inside and place them by a heater to get the finish to crack to make them look older. None never fell apart or anything that I know of tho so as far as glue I’d say they will b fine.

-- Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy might

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#6 posted 11-21-2019 08:53 PM

Unless they are exposed to the heating/cooling and humidity changes frequently before you sell them, I wouldn’t worry about it. My situation has occurred over 8 months and if I didn’t know that occurred I would just chalk it up to normal ageing of the boxes. Still, it isn’t like they are deformed, broken, or anything like that. Some of the dovetails have raised a bit as did the inlay which is made of dozens of small, dissimilar pieces of wood. I also noticed much more pronounced warping of the 1/2” cottonwood (soft wood). It is wood after all.

-- Earl "I'm a pessamist - generally that increases the chance that things will turn out better than expected"

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#7 posted 11-21-2019 09:27 PM

Awesome guys. Thanks for all your input.

-- - "There is no scrap wood, just pieces not yet used"

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#8 posted 11-21-2019 11:25 PM

I’d only worry about applying glue under 40 degrees. After it has hardened, you should not have a problem

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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