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Forum topic by ohtimberwolf posted 11-18-2019 10:17 PM 592 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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11-18-2019 10:17 PM

Topic tags/keywords: best pocket hole jig question

Help me out here.
I am aware of the Kregg K5 but the Armor pocket hole jig is a new kid on the block for me. Both are priced similar but function quite differently.
Which would you buy or why did you buy what you did.

Here is one link on utube of the Armor, there are others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh5-l1PbREE
larry

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#1 posted 11-19-2019 12:00 AM

Just watched the video. My choice would be the Kerg, which I’ve had (K4) for 4 years, mainly for simplicity. IMO.. Too many moving parts and screw choices with the Armor. With the Kreg I’ve only needed to choose between 2 screws to go into everything from 1/2” boards to 2×4’s. The 1 1/4” fine and course thread for hard or soft wood. I bought a box of 500 of each and still have at least 400 of each left. Not sure what your application is though. Great tool but unless you’re in the cabinet making business you probably won’t use it as often as you think. Just happened to use it last night for the 2nd time in a year. There was no Armor 4 years ago as far as I know, but the Kreg seems far simpler to use. A couple of the Kreg clamps and the 3/8” dowel inserts are nice to have also.

For dust collection I just use a hose clamp that is the same size as my vac hose. It just fits snuggly without having to tighten or loosen it. I’d end up dropping it and snapping that dust port off. The Kreg seems bulletproof. The auto adjust might save 10 seconds of total setup time but it has moving parts that can potentially fail.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#2 posted 11-19-2019 12:21 AM

I have the K5 and would not trade it for the Armor. One big thing the Armor is missing are the wings. The K5 wings acts as storage And material support. You’ll have to fabricate some kind of support for the Armor one. The hole width adjustment on the Armor isn’t that useful. You have various choices built in to the K5 block to get the width you want without pulling the aluminum block out. K5 does come with the dust collection adapter (well, mine did), so that’s not an advantage the way the video makes it out to be if comparing apples to apples. The auto adjustability of the Armor is a very nice feature that does one-up the K5. You have to remember to make the necessary adjustment to the material at hand on the K5. Other than that, I lean towards the K5.

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#3 posted 11-19-2019 02:28 AM

I have, I believe, the kregg K4. Mine has a vacuum hose fitting. Used it for years, no issues. The Armor seems like too many moving plastic parts. Once it’s out for some time, if it holds up, I’d consider it.

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#4 posted 11-19-2019 09:40 PM

Thanks guys for the input. The one feature that caught my eye was being able to clamp the piece in place without haveing to reach over or behind a larger panel such as a cabinet side. I often found it hard to use my kregg due to that. I guess I will do some more thinking and hope to see some Christmas sale pop up.

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#5 posted 11-19-2019 09:43 PM



The one feature that caught my eye was being able to clamp the piece in place without haveing to reach over or behind a larger panel such as a cabinet side. I often found it hard to use my kregg due to that.

- ohtimberwolf

The K5 clamping handle is on the front—your issue with the rear clamping was pretty common.

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#6 posted 11-23-2019 03:31 PM

Thanks all! I will have to check out the K% again because I must have missed the clamping from the front. It has been a while since I first looked. I’ll be watching for a sale to come up. Thanks again, larry

-- Just a barn cat, now gone to cat heaven.

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#7 posted 11-23-2019 05:06 PM


Thanks all! I will have to check out the K% again because I must have missed the clamping from the front. It has been a while since I first looked. I ll be watching for a sale to come up. Thanks again, larry

- ohtimberwolf

Kreg is currently doing a sale. $15 rebate on any kreg system over $99. And Peachtree has a nice bundle for sale as well and you still can get the rebate. Worth a look if you’re serious about it.
https://www.ptreeusa.com/edirect_110119_kreg.htm

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#8 posted 11-23-2019 07:13 PM

Thanks to all and Rayne for the link.
I ordered the Kregg K5MS with the bundle system and free shipping and $15.00 rebate.
larry

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#9 posted 11-23-2019 07:48 PM

Just received my Armor but haven’t had time to use it yet; sold my Kreg K5 after reading about the Armor and wanted to give it a try

-- Randy

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#10 posted 11-23-2019 07:55 PM

Cool. Let us know what you think. Inquiring minds want to know.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#11 posted 11-23-2019 08:24 PM

I have the K4 made my own extension wing supports.

-- Petey

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#12 posted 11-24-2019 06:48 PM

Did a little pocket hole work today with my new Armor tool; it works great; just as easy as my K5 but it sets the depth of the drill bit automatically; not necessarily better than the Kreg but in my opinion just as good with extra features

-- Randy

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#13 posted 11-24-2019 09:43 PM

Natgas, keep us posted as to how you like it or find things that could be better. It was a close race for me but i already have some kregg items so it sort of lead me that way but I was very impressed with the Armor. Thanks for posting. larry

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#14 posted 11-25-2019 02:49 AM

My first kit was the K2 Kreg. The improvement in the K-4 & K-5 is dust collection. I have them both and use them all the time. The one advantage is they both except the Micro & HD inserts for for different stock size. The K-5 is best for Panels. The one thing I hate is having to adjust the collar, if you forget to do it or it slips for a different thickness size wood. You then discover it makes a nice hole in your jig. :(
I have not used it yet, but I did pick up the Porter Cable QUIKJIG™ Pocket-Hole Joinery System 560 based on reviews here and on other Forums. It has been discontinued though, I expect one of other companies to pick it up. You set the collar and it is good for all Thickness’s. I look forward to your review. Dan

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