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10-07-2011 01:35 PM

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Can you guys help me figure out what this is? There’s a pile near my apartment complex and I’m trying to figure out if I should go grab some more.

-Another wood hoarder

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#1 posted 10-07-2011 01:48 PM

Why I know what that is. Those are the ever elusive, expedius lignum. It comes in many different sub species and can be used for many different things such as bowls, a seat, a bench, paper weights, doors stops, a wheel, and has even been known to start fires when rubbed together. It has a thousand different uses and all of them are good.

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#2 posted 10-07-2011 01:58 PM

My thoughts exactly :). I’m just trying to put a name to it so I can have it for personal knowledge. Working on my tree identification skills.

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#3 posted 10-07-2011 02:18 PM

Hard to tell from one picture, but it looks like walnut. The sapwood is actually quite pale, the heartwood is the dark color we all think of, but it can get quite washed out with light exposure while drying. Depending on how deep that dark brown actually is, it could also be butternut.

Definitely a member of the walnut family. If it is soft and lighter-toned, butternut. If it is just a little bit lighter than what we generally think of as walnut (‘black walnut’), then it could be common (or ‘English’ walnut) – not native, but in places like New England it was planted here and there, so you might come across it in a more urban setting. Pretty rare though. Most likely, it is eastern black walnut with a bit of sun-bleaching on the ends.

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#4 posted 10-07-2011 03:44 PM

Looking at the width of the growth rings it looks like Pine to me.
The bark looks piney as well.
But, my opinion might be swayed by those pine needles on the ground in the background.

Does it smell like PineSol? Another good indicator.

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#5 posted 10-07-2011 03:51 PM

The bark and the sapwood/heartwood contrast is a dead giveaway.. walnut imo.

The bleaching of the heartwood is a bit misleading, but its still fairly dark. The bark definitely looks like walnut (I have about 25 in my yard I’m considering cutting down..)

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#6 posted 10-07-2011 04:22 PM

from my experience this looks like walnut thats been left out in the sun and been rained on. it takes out the color a little when its rained on because, so science has told me, the compound that gives it the color is water soluble. No idea if thats wrong or not but I found it interesting. haha

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#7 posted 10-07-2011 05:00 PM

I dont think it’s pine, definitely doesn’t smell like pinesol and there’s little to no sap around the cuts. I think that it may be walnut. The wood was actually rained on last night and the tree has been down for a few days. I only saw this morning that it was cut down to pieces that I could carry off :)

plus side: I found some free wood to turn…
down side: I just need to find a chainsaw to cut them up into blanks…... :\

There’s always a catch

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#8 posted 10-07-2011 07:12 PM

Hard to tell for sure, but I’ve cut up a lot of walnut and haven’t seen any like that…growth lines are way too wide, color isn’t right for having just been cut down. I’d guess red oak.

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#9 posted 10-08-2011 03:34 AM

It is a ring porous hardwood. There is only a small sapwood ring. The bark is interlaced. If the wood is heavy, these are all characteristics of black locust. It is not black walnut. The color of the bark is not dark enough, and the inner bark of fresh cut walnut is yellow.

Interestingly, black locust only ever has a couple of years growth of sapwood. Another characteristic, and this is a little technical, is that the pores in the wood will be completely occluded by crystalline structures called tyloses. These are what make white oak suitable for wine and whisky barrels because the tyloses plug the pores and prevent moisture loss (bleeding). The heartwood of black locust is a dark greenish brown.

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#10 posted 10-08-2011 05:46 AM

Fairly unlikely to be black locust in New Hampshire.

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#11 posted 10-09-2011 09:34 PM

The bark looks like elm and the heartwood looks like elm. The growth rings appear that this tree grew fairly fast, like elm. What does it smell like? Does it have a musty sweet smell? Almost certain this is a red elm which does have a significantly darker heartwood. It is fun to turn though!!

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#12 posted 10-10-2011 10:13 PM

I also vote elm. I once picked up a couple of logs on the side of the road (looked a bit like walnut from 50’ away at 30 MPH) around late October. The next spring, a couple of tiny branches sprouted and there were a few leaves that allowed me to identify it as slippery elm (Ulmus rubra).


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#13 posted 10-12-2011 05:03 AM

It could very well be elm. If it is, then the latewood pores in the growth ring are arranged in distinct wavy bands.

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#14 posted 10-12-2011 05:18 AM

Elm would have been my guess.

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#15 posted 10-12-2011 10:07 PM

Try spliting it If it is Elm it will be very stringy and hard to split If walnut it should split fairly easy and the sap will be green and turn brown as it dries the bark looks like it could be either Andysden

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