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Forum topic by iamwelty posted 10-23-2019 11:44 AM 270 views 1 time favorited 4 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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10-23-2019 11:44 AM

I am making an L shaped kitchen base cabinet. One leg is approximately 5 feet that will have a blind corner and the other leg will be approximately 6 feet. I am doing the toe kick base separate to accommodate a slanted floor in tphis 150 year old farm house. I am making face frame inset cabinets. Most people recommend to make the face frames first and then the cabinet boxes last. I’m thinking that I should do the boxes first and the frames last so that I can fit the frames better. Especially the stile that will be for the blind corner. I will be using pocket holes to attach the face frames.

What is the big advantage of face frames first?

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#1 posted 10-23-2019 02:10 PM

I’ve done them both ways. I do them first if the unit is to fit a specific outside dimension or will be scribing and fitting a stile to a wall, for example.

The other case would be if there will be multiple separate cab boxes, one face frame to cover all of them will look better and be easier to install.

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#2 posted 10-23-2019 02:40 PM

The uppers were hung on a French cleat with the face frames made first.

The base cabs were multiple separate cab boxes installed on a separate toe kick base with a single
face frame.

“What is the big advantage of face frames first?”

Once the FF (face frame) is made the doors and drawers can be fabricated of its dimensions. Your cut list
will be more accurate and you’ll waste less material.
Go for what you know and have fun building your kitchen your way!

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#3 posted 10-24-2019 03:37 PM

Once you have your frames it’s easier to figure your boxes. Most shops the cabinets and frames are made in separate locations, so they have to work reguardless…

Easiest….. Frames first…

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#4 posted 10-24-2019 04:01 PM

We’ve always made our face frames first to the dimensions the cabinets need to be. Same for our millwork shop. We also mortise and tenon our frames to the boxes once we get the boxes built

As long I can remember, which is a lot of years in our business, we’ve never missed a set of cabinets not fitting.

The most important thing is when you measure for a set of cabinets, get the measurements right before you ever start the build.

When in doubt about something, we make templates, especially with cabinets that have angles.

Good luck with your build.

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