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MartyZ

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10-11-2019 02:54 PM

Ok, so i’m continuing to build my tool collection and would like advice on which tools to buy next.

The tools that I don’t have are as follows:
Bandsaw
Planer
Jointer
spindle sander

Now, I was planning on getting a 9 or 10 inch bandsaw and a surface planer during black friday. Keeping in mind that my work shop space is very limited the jointer is all the way down on my list and I can’t get a larger bandsaw.

Here is the issue that I am having, but it’s purely psychological I think. I have a 10” single bevel miter saw and I have a chance to get a 12” sliding miter saw at a good price. But if I get the new miter saw then I have to, at least for now, forego the bandsaw or planar.

So what the community say? Which tool should take priority?


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syenefarmer

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#1 posted 10-11-2019 03:07 PM

Maybe for now anyways, don’t buy anything. When an upcoming project requires that you have one of the wish list tools then buy that one at that time. Continue to sock away some $$$ for the next tool purchase after this one. I’ve always struggled with the need vs want decisions but have found that need is almost always the best way to go.

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MartyZ

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#2 posted 10-11-2019 03:15 PM

I was hoping to buy during black friday sales, so I can’t wait forever. I can buy 2 tools, but I want to buy 3, lol.

The 3rd will really be an upgrade, just don’t know if the upgrade is worth it.

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hkmiller

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#3 posted 10-11-2019 03:56 PM

Keep an eye out for a DeWalt dw735 planer kit on Amazon mini x e Markham down very short term for 499 and that includes the extra blades in the infeed outfeed table you could snag that that would be a good

-- always something

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Rich

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#4 posted 10-11-2019 04:07 PM


So what the community say? Which tool should take priority?

- MartyZ

Only you can answer that.

For real projects, like furniture, cabinets, etc, a jointer is indispensable, as is a planer. A 10” band saw is fine if you only plan to cut some curved profiles in relatively light stock, but if you intend to use it for resawing or breaking down heavy stock, it’s inadequate. A 14” will serve you better. A spindle sander is nice, but inexpensive mandrels for a drill will do most jobs just as well.

Without knowing what sort of work you intend to do, it’s impossible to give you a solid suggestion. If you can provide more information, you’ll get better answers.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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MartyZ

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#5 posted 10-11-2019 04:33 PM

I will be doing some furniture in the future but not yet. For now I am working mostly with plywood, closet organizers mostly, finishing up one with 2 more planned, and then, maybe a dining room table. So I know I will definitely need a planer. The jointer would be a nice to have but I have 2 constraints, budget and space. space being the biggest constraint. But I think I can work around a jointer for now, will continue practicing with the hand plane.

So, like I said, planer and bandsaw is my first priority as far as space is concerned, and I won’t know if I can fit a 14” bandsaw until I re-organize the garage, need to build the work bench and see what type of space saving ideas I can come up with.

But I only have a budget for 2 tools for black friday. I can always buy more later, if space allows.

One thing that space is not an issue for is the miter saw, since I already have the space for one and this would be an upgrade. So the question is. Is it worth upgrading a 10” basic miter saw to a 12” sliding miter saw in place of getting either the band saw or the planer? I do have a jigsaw to use for now.

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WoodenDreams

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#6 posted 10-11-2019 05:16 PM

Having a ‘it’s nice to have’ is different than being practical. You can always upgrade once you have your tool collection built up. I bought my lesser costing tools first so I could have a larger assortment of tools to do more things. Then I went out to find the deals on the more expensive equipment (the nice to have). If you have a initial plan on when and how to build up your tool collection, It usually becomes more expensive to sway and do the impulse buys. My son-in-law went the 7” sliding miter saw because of cost, and he loves it. I use a compound 12” miter saw because I don’t have room for the 12” sliding miter saw (would stick out too far from the wall). As for the bandsaw, the 10” is the minimum I’d go. My 10” is ok for small projects. If so, plan on getting a nicer blade than the stock blade later on. If possible save up for the 14”, There’s a difference you’ll appreciate. Till then you can get by with a jig saw or scroll saw for certain cuts. If you don’t have a ongoing project that needs the tool now, then save up for the tools you would prefer. And also continue to sock up $$$ for future tools and projects. Some of the projects I start require about $200 in materials (wood and hardware) upfront.

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Rich

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#7 posted 10-11-2019 05:39 PM


I will be doing some furniture in the future but not yet. For now I am working mostly with plywood, closet organizers mostly, finishing up one with 2 more planned, and then, maybe a dining room table. So I know I will definitely need a planer. The jointer would be a nice to have but I have 2 constraints, budget and space. space being the biggest constraint. But I think I can work around a jointer for now, will continue practicing with the hand plane.

So, like I said, planer and bandsaw is my first priority as far as space is concerned, and I won t know if I can fit a 14” bandsaw until I re-organize the garage, need to build the work bench and see what type of space saving ideas I can come up with.

But I only have a budget for 2 tools for black friday. I can always buy more later, if space allows.

One thing that space is not an issue for is the miter saw, since I already have the space for one and this would be an upgrade. So the question is. Is it worth upgrading a 10” basic miter saw to a 12” sliding miter saw in place of getting either the band saw or the planer? I do have a jigsaw to use for now.

- MartyZ

For shelving, etc, the miter saw would come in very handy. As long as you’re working with plywood, a jointer and planer are unnecessary. Down the road when you start milling up rough hardwood they’ll be needed though. The bandsaw will come in handy if you’re doing any decorative curves on your organizers, however a good jigsaw can do the same thing for less money, and if the pieces you’re cutting are large, they might not fit on a bandsaw anyway.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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Phil32

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#8 posted 10-11-2019 06:15 PM

You have not mentioned any planned projects that would require a large bandsaw nor a planer. Consider simple alternatives to expensive woodworking machines. It sounds like workspace needs to be expanded first.

-- Phil Allin - There are mountain climbers and people who talk about climbing mountains. The climbers have "selfies" at the summit!

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MartyZ

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#9 posted 10-11-2019 06:20 PM

Work space is fixed for now. It’s my garage, well half of it, and this is a hobby, so there is no plans for renting space.

But you are correct, no plans for a large bandsaw or planer yet, so i’m hoping to make due with a 10” bandsaw for now. I was looking at the WEN, I know, it’s probably crap, but it does have 6” resaw capacity.

I will need the planer if I will be working on a table in the future though.

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RRBOU

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#10 posted 10-11-2019 06:59 PM

From your list I personally would put the planer on top of the list.

-- If guns cause crime all of mine are defective Randy

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edapp

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#11 posted 10-11-2019 08:34 PM

Every time I buy a tool without a specific need or project in mind, I find that it sits around without being used much longer than I expected.

So with that in mind, I pretty much wait on any new tool purchase for a project that demands it. If you cant make X without Y… then time to buy Y. Now I have to admit I have taken on a specific project before just because it justified a new tool purchase. But I find that to be much more satisfying than buying a bandsaw just because you dont have one (and maybe you will never use one… just depends on what you like to make).

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avsmusic1

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#12 posted 10-11-2019 10:16 PM

Planer

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therealSteveN

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#13 posted 10-11-2019 10:40 PM

I look at a miter saw as a rough work tool. They are made for the construction industry, and got co-opted to the trim guys with sliders, taller fences, and head that index both directions. They still haven’t removed the motion that is inherent to this design, so they remain rough construction tools. Only because they are so easy to use, woodworkers try to press them into a fine woodworking job. I say best of luck to ya.

So after all that if you can’t fathom going forward without a 12” slider, then by all means, get ya one. All of the other tools can be made to do woodworking functions. So I would consider any/all of them as beneficial.

I think Phil nailed it on your plan so far as you have gone with it. I’d suggest waiting until you can’t do something without a specific tool, and get one then. Sounds on face value like it would cost you more doing the purchase when you need it, but instead of a lot of tooling you do NOT need, it will save you a lot.

-- Think safe, be safe

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Rich

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#14 posted 10-11-2019 11:49 PM

A good miter saw is very accurate if set up properly. Mine is squared well under 0.001” per inch using the 5-cut test. I use it extensively for face frame pieces and frame and panel doors. With the extension wing and stops, it ensures the lengths match exactly, which is key to getting a square frame. Cutting to a mark is asking for problems. That, and it sure beats trying to manage an 8 foot board while crosscutting on a miter sled on a table saw.

The tall pantry I posted a project for recently had 84” stiles on the face frame. They would have been a pain to cut any other way. The key is to know the tool and how to use it properly. If you’re clueless, best of luck. You’ll need it.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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HackFabrication

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#15 posted 10-12-2019 12:02 AM

For ‘around the house’ work, you would be best served with the 12” sliding miter saw. I use my 12” (non-sliding) DeWalt more than any tool I have.

A bandsaw is great. But you can spend a truck load of money on one. I have a HF 14” that I ‘tuned’ up a bit and it get’s it’s share of use.

A planer is going to sit. Unless you are working a lot of unfinished wood. I have a Dewalt 735, and it’s great, but it’s also a mess to use. You’re going to need to get some effective chip collection, or a good broom…

-- "In the end, it's all Hack..."

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