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Ryan Tanguay

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10-02-2019 08:19 PM

Topic tags/keywords: resource question tablesaw

I came across a 1960s Craftsman table saw on Craigslist. Model 113.29902. https://charlotte.craigslist.org/tls/d/lancaster-table-saw-10-craftsman/6990371523.html
I currently have a Ryobi that I bought about 7-8 years ago as my first table saw. It has definitely seen better days and just about requires anyone in the house to wear hearing protection. I am need of an upgrade, but don’t want to spend too much as this is just a hobby of mine.

The saw in question was listed at $180. I have done as much research as I can, but cannot get definitive proof of what it is worth. I just took a look at it, as it is housed about 4 minutes away from me. The cast iron top seems to be in great shape (no rust). The current owner did add strips of a slick plastic (I assume HDPE) to the top for less friction (I will remove those). There are two extension wings, one cast iron and the other aluminum.

He is a bit of a tinkerer and has added his own zero clearance plate out of aluminum, a mobile base, upgraded the belt to a linked belt and had the bearings replaced a few years ago.

Saw started up fine, sounded great (at least compared to my current one).

He offered to go down to $150 and the saw needs only a little TLC. Any thoughts as to whether if this is a great deal or if my hesitation is warranted and to keep looking.

The only image that he posted online was small, but I will add it here:


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#1 posted 10-02-2019 10:36 PM

I’d say that is not bad for a saw that has been well cared for. What about the rip fence, is it original or after market?

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#2 posted 10-02-2019 10:51 PM

Sorry, but I’m having trouble getting past the part where you dickered with him to get a price lower than he was asking….and then walked away after he agreed…...Ummm…... that’s just incredibly poor etiquette on your part. I felt compelled to point that out.

That said, it is, IMO a very fair price based on what you have described. Those old saws were workhorses and will last many, many more years if you maintain it well.

If he’s still willing to talk to you, and it fits your needs, go for it.

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#3 posted 10-02-2019 11:11 PM



Sorry, but I m having trouble getting past the part where you dickered with him to get a price lower than he was asking….and then walked away after he agreed…...Ummm…... that s just incredibly poor etiquette on your part. I felt compelled to point that out.

That said, it is, IMO a very fair price based on what you have described. Those old saws were workhorses and will last many, many more years if you maintain it well.

If he s still willing to talk to you, and it fits your needs, go for it.

- MiniBuilder

Thank you for pointing that out and I appreciate your input. We talked back and forth prior to me even seeing it. I did as much research as I could and found the price much higher than what saws of any similarity were going for. I was having hesitation before even going and was pointing out my research. He said that he would go to $150 without me even asking.

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#4 posted 10-02-2019 11:14 PM



I d say that is not bad for a saw that has been well cared for. What about the rip fence, is it original or after market?

- bondogaposis

I believe that it is original, but I have read the reviews that the fence has much to be desired and upgrading might be in the future. Would most likely live with it for awhile if I do purchase.

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#5 posted 10-02-2019 11:36 PM

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Ryan Tanguay

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#6 posted 10-02-2019 11:54 PM



Hopefull, you are aware of rule of OWWM Rule No. 5: In the time between finding a machine and asking others if you should buy it someone else will come to the proper conclusion.

- Andybb

Yes, I am aware. I am thinking I will regret not getting it more than getting it.

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#7 posted 10-03-2019 12:05 AM

It would bother me that one of the wings is missing, unless I were going to make a router table in its place.

Whether or not I’d be interested would depend on how much money and especially time I’d have to put into it to make it usable for my projects, and there’s no way of telling from that ad.

I don’t know what the story is in SC, but in Los Angeles you can find any number of comparable Craftsman contractor saws in that price range any day of the week. That certainly doesn’t mean it’s not a good saw, just that it doesn’t seem like a once-in-a-lifetime deal.

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#8 posted 10-03-2019 12:05 AM

Wait, it does have both wings. Never mind.

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Ryan Tanguay

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#9 posted 10-03-2019 12:47 AM



Wait, it does have both wings. Never mind.

- nickbatz

Yes, they are both attached to the right hand side. With it’s current condition, I wouldn’t have to do much of anything to start using it and it would already be a big upgrade from what I have. Down the road I might do some upgrades (like the fence). As for the pickings, I have found “newer” craftsman, but they are just stamped steel and aluminum. I was looking for the stability of the cast iron. As for other saws, they are just out of my budget.

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#10 posted 10-03-2019 01:05 AM


I don t know what the story is in SC, but in Los Angeles you can find any number of comparable Craftsman contractor saws in that price range any day of the week. That certainly doesn t mean it s not a good saw, just that it doesn t seem like a once-in-a-lifetime deal.
- nickbatz

Probably not once in a lifetime but the population density of LA vs Lancaster, SC probably has a lot to do with availability.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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#11 posted 10-03-2019 12:07 PM

With proper alignment, a decent blade, and a fence upgrade that could be a very nice saw. I’d do the alignment and blade immediately, then spend some time researching a fence and waiting for the right deal.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#12 posted 10-03-2019 01:02 PM

To start, your Ryobi lasted how long, and this saw is from the 60’s, goes to show the “build quality” difference in the two saws. With that said the craftsman was not a top of the line saw, but it is a good, solid saw that will last you a lifetime. The biggest problem with that saw is the fence, so an after market fence is recommended. I have one of these saws, it was my first saw. I just got some drafting squares to make sure the fence was parallel to the blade. I still have that saw, I just use it as a dedicated Dado saw and as a table extension for my Unisaw. IMHO, $150 is a good fair price for that saw, and is a definite upgrade from the Ryobi, besides you can always get at least $100 if for some reason you need to off it.

-- Daniel, Pontiac, MI

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#13 posted 10-03-2019 01:24 PM

I have seen two craftsman contractors saws with curved tops one unuseable. Cast iron moves after it is cast. If its machined too soon the part will continue moving and be untrue. Lesson here is to take a straight edge with you. FWIW home depot was selling. maybe still is, an slightly nicer version of the classic craftsman contractor saw. The craftsman fence is its weak spot. Almost any replacement fence is better. Some people have had good luck making DIY fences.

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Ryan Tanguay

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#14 posted 10-03-2019 11:23 PM

Thank you all for the helpful tips! I am picking up the saw tomorrow. I will do some immediate tuning up and alignment and general cleanup. As for the fence, I will live with the one it has currently as I do research into what I would like to upgrade it to.

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#15 posted 10-04-2019 04:04 AM

That is a good price, I sold my 95’ version 113 for about that price. I had upgraded the fence to the newer version, still wasn’t very good. I had the Cast Iron Wings with the holes. It is a love hate relationship with those, liked I could clamp through them, but hated catching my fingers in them. Used until I had the money for a Sawstop PCS. Dan

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