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PresidentsDad

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09-30-2019 02:22 PM

Hey all,
I know I can find a five pack at Rockler and the like, but T-bolt sets at Rockler are really expensive. Plus the packs that have the nuts, bolts, knobs, etc don’t have enough of what I need or some parts and too much of other parts.

Anyone been successful in finding t-bolts (specifically 1/4-20 and 5/16-18 in various lengths from 1.5” to 3.5”) online or at some other type of store that aren’t almost a dollar each? I’d think bolts like this would be somewhere in the 25 cent range each. Most supply houses and big box stores look at me funny when I ask where the t-bolts are (as if they have never heard of them or something). Any help would be appreciated.


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#1 posted 09-30-2019 02:57 PM

The only cheap non-woodworking store T-bolts I know of are sold as toilet bolts in plumbing section of home store?

Another option is to use economy stamped T-nut and regular bolt. T-nuts are used on aluminum extrusions and cam be found for low cost. Examples:
https://www.tnutz.com/product/et-010-1-4-20/
https://8020.net/catalog/category/view/id/196/?cat=198&cat=199

YMMV.

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#2 posted 09-30-2019 03:01 PM

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#3 posted 09-30-2019 03:09 PM



http://www.leevalley.com/us/Wood/page.aspx?p=65642&cat=1,43455,61994&ap=1

HTH

- waho6o9


that is a very nice and cheap set thanks for posting :<)))

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#4 posted 09-30-2019 03:33 PM

You’re welcome Tony.

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#5 posted 09-30-2019 03:35 PM



http://www.leevalley.com/us/Wood/page.aspx?p=65642&cat=1,43455,61994&ap=1

HTH

- waho6o9

Yeah, that’s not a terrible price, but it comes with a bunch of stuff I don’t need. Anywhere to get the t-bolts only for a decent price?

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#6 posted 09-30-2019 04:12 PM

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#7 posted 09-30-2019 04:19 PM

As Klutz suggested, Toilet bolts work great. You can get them in various lengths and head sizes.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#8 posted 09-30-2019 04:39 PM



As Klutz suggested, Toilet bolts work great. You can get them in various lengths and head sizes.

- Gene Howe


All I seem to see on that is the “sets” which have two bolts, some plastic holding washers, two brass washers and two nuts. Usually $5-10. Any idea where to get just the bolts. I’ve never had this much trouble locating a bolt before. Even my local supply house had no idea.

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#9 posted 09-30-2019 04:52 PM

Try Home Depot. $15 for 20, various lengths available.
T-Bolts

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#10 posted 09-30-2019 04:53 PM

One more comment on t-bolts I forgot to add earlier:

You do not always need them? Reference: https://www.popularwoodworking.com/projects/t-track/

Many t-track extrusions you buy from wood working stores are capable of using regular hex head bolts.
Rockler calls it Universal T-Track. All of Incra T-Track can use hex bolts too. WoodCraft brand T-track also uses 1/4-20 hex head bolts.

Personally, I almost never use classic t-bolts, due cost and never having right length on hand. I use a mix of: hex head fasteners, and/or stamped t-nuts, all using regular hex nuts/bolts inside plastic multi-knob handles by Woodpecker.
Jig hardware is expensive anyway you use it. Bought in bulk, the WoodPecker multi-knob has removed my needs for T-bolts, except in very rare occasions where the knob is too large for jig design.

YMMV

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#11 posted 09-30-2019 04:58 PM



As Klutz suggested, Toilet bolts work great. You can get them in various lengths and head sizes.

- Gene Howe

X2 That’s what I use.

-- A bad day woodworking is still better than a good day working.

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#12 posted 09-30-2019 05:14 PM

Cap’n is right. Hex head bolts usually work fine as well.

-- Sawdust makes me whole --Mike in STL

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PresidentsDad

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#13 posted 09-30-2019 05:17 PM


One more comment on t-bolts I forgot to add earlier:

You do not always need them? Reference: https://www.popularwoodworking.com/projects/t-track/

Many t-track extrusions you buy from wood working stores are capable of using regular hex head bolts.
Rockler calls it Universal T-Track. All of Incra T-Track can use hex bolts too. WoodCraft brand T-track also uses 1/4-20 hex head bolts.

Personally, I almost never use classic t-bolts, due cost and never having right length on hand. I use a mix of: hex head fasteners, and/or stamped t-nuts, all using regular hex nuts/bolts inside plastic multi-knob handles by Woodpecker.
Jig hardware is expensive anyway you use it. Bought in bulk, the WoodPecker multi-knob has removed my needs for T-bolts, except in very rare occasions where the knob is too large for jig design.

YMMV

- CaptainKlutz


Thanks Cap’n. I’ve heard that 1/4-20 hex heads tend to bind in the slots. Has that been your experience? If not, I’ll abandon this whole t-bolt track and move on to 1/4-20 hex bolts instead since those are cheap! :) I’m thinking either Rockler Universal T-Track or Incra t-track.

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#14 posted 09-30-2019 05:28 PM

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#15 posted 09-30-2019 05:38 PM


Thanks Cap n. I ve heard that 1/4-20 hex heads tend to bind in the slots. Has that been your experience? If not, I ll abandon this whole t-bolt track and move on to 1/4-20 hex bolts instead since those are cheap! :)
- PresidentsDad

Hmm. IMHO – it depends? The Rockler 5/16 track has sloppy fit for hex bolts, and refuse to use it. The other brands fit hex heads better for me. Another thing to watch out for is hex head size. Many cheap ungraded, or #2 grade hex bolts use undersized head, which makes things sloppy. My stock pile is usually boxes of grade 5, or grade 8 bolts and don’t see many issues?
Should note one thing I have seen with hex heads?
If you turn on ‘Gorilla Grip mode’ to over tighten hex bolt in track, it can leave indentation in aluminum. Do this repeatedly, and bolt can stick in the indentations as you try to move it around. So when I need a large clamping force, will use oblong stamped t-nuts and hex head bolt in the multi-knob, or drop back to t-bolts.

LOL – The larger size of multi-knob is double edge sword. I have stripped threads out of t-nuts several times in Gorilla mode. #IAMAKLUTZ

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, Doom, despair, agony on me… - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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