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SergeLemay

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09-20-2019 06:39 PM

Topic tags/keywords: planer question resource refurbishing

hi everyone!

I need help to ID my planer. Any input you may have is appreciated.
All of it is in metric.


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CaptainKlutz

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#1 posted 09-20-2019 07:45 PM

Hmm,
Looks sort of like all the other 15” clones of the Delta DC-380 #22-680 with 2Hp motor?
BTW – The dimensions and fasteners on all the Asian made planers are metric.

Notes:
- Motor shows wiring for 110/220v supply. Delta were only 220v.
- Since height scale is metric, it has to be a local Canadian imported brand. The US versions of that planer used inch height scales.
- Has to be very early model of imported planers, that or it’s missing parts? Drive chains do not have chain tension roller/spring found on most machines.
- There is normally a cast iron cover over the drive chain area, and your tool is missing this too.
- The gear retaining bolts look different than most of the 15” planers I have rebuilt? Normally it is 6mm bolt/10mm head into center of feed roller shafts. Looks like that tool is using nuts threaded onto end shaft? Have never seen a Canadian import by General, that may be normal for them?

In the old days, The clone WW tools made in Taiwan were available for private label branding to anyone willing to buy 10+ at a time, or buy an entire shipping container of different tools. There are a ton of different brands, all with same machine under neath it. Including; General, Busy Bee, Steelex, Jet, Grizzly, Powermatic, United, etc; almost ANYONE selling 15” planers gets them from same couple of mfg.

My guess is you have an older version of General – 15” 30-115M1?
https://canucktools.ca/general-15-single-surface-planer-30-115m1/
Dig up a General 15” planer manual, and check for differences?
If you send General Int the pictures, they will know model number if they or their predecessor owners of the brand imported it. They also might know who imported it if not.

Best Luck.

#IAMAKLUTZ, not an expert.

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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PPK

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#2 posted 09-20-2019 08:21 PM



Hmm,
Looks sort of like all the other 15” clones of the Delta DC-380 #22-680 with 2Hp motor?
BTW – The dimensions and fasteners on all the Asian made planers are metric.

Notes:
- Motor shows wiring for 110/220v supply. Delta were only 220v.
- Since height scale is metric, it has to be a local Canadian imported brand. The US versions of that planer used inch height scales.
- Has to be very early model of imported planers, that or it s missing parts? Drive chains do not have chain tension roller/spring found on most machines.
- There is normally a cast iron cover over the drive chain area, and your tool is missing this too.
- The gear retaining bolts look different than most of the 15” planers I have rebuilt? Normally it is 6mm bolt/10mm head into center of feed roller shafts. Looks like that tool is using nuts threaded onto end shaft? Have never seen a Canadian import by General, that may be normal for them?

In the old days, The clone WW tools made in Taiwan were available for private label branding to anyone willing to buy 10+ at a time, or buy an entire shipping container of different tools. There are a ton of different brands, all with same machine under neath it. Including; General, Busy Bee, Steelex, Jet, Grizzly, Powermatic, United, etc; almost ANYONE selling 15” planers gets them from same couple of mfg.

My guess is you have an older version of General – 15” 30-115M1?
https://canucktools.ca/general-15-single-surface-planer-30-115m1/
Dig up a General 15” planer manual, and check for differences?
If you send General Int the pictures, they will know model number if they or their predecessor owners of the brand imported it. They also might know who imported it if not.

Best Luck.

#IAMAKLUTZ, not an expert.

- CaptainKlutz

+1 to what Cap Klutz says. Right away it looks to be a General or some variation of that machine.

-- Pete

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SergeLemay

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#3 posted 09-20-2019 10:54 PM

Wow! Jackpot guys!!! It looks to be exactly the one… I’ll have to do some reading/checking measurements, but right now this is it!
Thank you very much!

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CaptainKlutz

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#4 posted 09-21-2019 12:10 AM

BTW: had a brain lapse earlier, missed some possibly relevant stuff: #IAMAKLUTZ

The Grizzly planer model of similar configuration and vintage was G0550.
https://www.grizzly.com/products/Grizzly-15-Planer-w-Open-Stand/G0550

Busy Bee tools which is owned by brother of the owner of Grizzly; has sold rebranded Grizzly tools to Canadian market since late 70’s , using different model numbers. Most of old Busy Bee tools tools where also similar basic puke green color. They started using the brand name Craftex somewhere back in time.

They don’t have manuals and pictures of old discontinued tools on web, so it’s slightly more difficult to research Busy Bee exact model numbers that might look like your tool.
Reference: https://www.busybeetools.com/pages/Manuals.html

BUT if you know the actual model number of machine, Google is able find the manuals on web site:
Running through the list of manuals, we get:

The CT055 looks like your planer:
https://busybeetools.com/content/product_manuals/CT055.pdf

The CT090 is closed stand version of CT055:
https://www.busybeetools.com/content/product_manuals/CT090.pdf

The B350S is the early version of moving table 15” planers, and while it shares some common parts, is different: https://busybeetools.com/content/product_manuals/B350S.pdf

The CT204/CT204 are same tools as Grizzly G1021/G1033 with moving platform, which is not same:
https://www.busybeetools.com/content/product_manuals/CT203.pdf

The rest of 15” planers are planer/molders, which are radically different.

LOL, found a Foremost branded planer on Spokane Craigslist that looks like yours too:
https://spokane.craigslist.org/tls/d/spokane-planer-15/6976342479.html

Not so common known fact:
‘Foremost’ brand used to be common name for stuff made in Taiwan, as the island used be called Formosa.

Last but not least:
Geetech was a major player in Planers/Jointers when Taiwan made tools become common. They also own/partner with Chinese mfg plant and export Taiwan/China made woodworking tools for various OEM today.
Reason I add this tid-bit:
The Chinese produced tools even from same MFG, use slightly different designs. While they look exactly same, there are some parts differences that prevent use of spare parts for a Chinese made machine to fit the Taiwan made machines. Primary differences I have discovered are the in/out feed roller lengths, gear boxes, and upper cast iron parts.

Done torturing the keyboard for now, Thanks for reading all the way till end….
:)

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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SergeLemay

9 posts in 30 days


#5 posted 09-21-2019 01:30 PM



BTW: had a brain lapse earlier, missed some possibly relevant stuff: #IAMAKLUTZ

The Grizzly planer model of similar configuration and vintage was G0550.
https://www.grizzly.com/products/Grizzly-15-Planer-w-Open-Stand/G0550

Busy Bee tools which is owned by brother of the owner of Grizzly; has sold rebranded Grizzly tools to Canadian market since late 70 s , using different model numbers. Most of old Busy Bee tools tools where also similar basic puke green color. They started using the brand name Craftex somewhere back in time.

They don t have manuals and pictures of old discontinued tools on web, so it s slightly more difficult to research Busy Bee exact model numbers that might look like your tool.
Reference: https://www.busybeetools.com/pages/Manuals.html

BUT if you know the actual model number of machine, Google is able find the manuals on web site:
Running through the list of manuals, we get:

The CT055 looks like your planer:
https://busybeetools.com/content/product_manuals/CT055.pdf

The CT090 is closed stand version of CT055:
https://www.busybeetools.com/content/product_manuals/CT090.pdf

The B350S is the early version of moving table 15” planers, and while it shares some common parts, is different: https://busybeetools.com/content/product_manuals/B350S.pdf

The CT204/CT204 are same tools as Grizzly G1021/G1033 with moving platform, which is not same:
https://www.busybeetools.com/content/product_manuals/CT203.pdf

The rest of 15” planers are planer/molders, which are radically different.

LOL, found a Foremost branded planer on Spokane Craigslist that looks like yours too:
https://spokane.craigslist.org/tls/d/spokane-planer-15/6976342479.html

Not so common known fact: Foremost brand used to be common name for stuff made in Taiwan, as the island used be called Formosa.

Last but not least:
Geetech was a major player in Planers/Jointers when Taiwan made tools become common. They also own/partner with Chinese mfg plant and export Taiwan/China made woodworking tools for various OEM today.
Reason I add this tid-bit:
The Chinese produced tools even from same MFG, use slightly different designs. While they look exactly same, there are some parts differences that prevent use of spare parts for a Chinese made machine to fit the Taiwan made machines. Primary differences I have discovered are the in/out feed roller lengths, gear boxes, and upper cast iron parts.

Done torturing the keyboard for now, Thanks for reading all the way till end….
:)

- CaptainKlutz


Thank for the incredible input!!!
I am gonna go through all of it!!
I don’t see if I wrote that it was originally yellow in color (Powermatic). It was repainted green after…

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