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pottz

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09-18-2019 01:55 PM

now i know im gonna get some push back on this from those that dont care about the quality of this forum but here’s my opinion anyway.yesterday someone posted pic’s of their newly setup shop,a beautiful shop many complimented including myself.i also made the comment that it should be moved to his workshop pic’s.today it’s still their and has a dt3 award for something that is clearly not a finished project made from wood.i guess if you count the cabinets it qualifies?.so this tends to confirm my belief that getting a dt3 is pretty much worthless.ive heard from others that getting one is triggered by the amount of views not quality of the project,and ive seen many that i felt didn’t deserve that title,including some of my own.this kind of stuff really degrades the forum IMHO!. id love to hear others opinions as well.
ps-i just saw he did move it to his workshop so i dont blame him,it’s more of an admin problem.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.


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Tooch

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#1 posted 09-18-2019 03:38 PM

I believe there is an algorithm set up based on number of fuse, and more importantly the number of times it’s been “favorited”. Because of that, I too have had some smaller projects get a DT3 that probably didn’t deserve it, while other more in-depth projects like tables and chairs were omitted.

the other issue regarding daily top threes is that it is a 24-hour time slot from the time that you posted the original project. This does not necessarily make it a “daily” top 3 but just a simple recognition based on the number of impressions you made in 24 hours. The total number of DT3s could, therefore, exceed “3”, making the honor less honorable.

All that being said, I’m not too upset by it.

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#2 posted 09-18-2019 04:17 PM

Yes sir, those are some awesome clamp racks in that photo. There must have been a tremendous amount of skill and design savvy involved with that project.

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#3 posted 09-18-2019 04:26 PM

It’s all good.

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#4 posted 09-18-2019 05:15 PM

I dismissed the concept of any sort of algorithm long ago. Take Brian’s recent post for his jewelry box. It’s deserving of its Daily Top 3, but it carries only one favorite and a relatively small number of views.

Beautiful piece, but the numbers don’t add up. I personally believe the award is handed out by someone based on their assessment of the work.

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#5 posted 09-18-2019 06:35 PM



I dismissed the concept of any sort of algorithm long ago. Take Brian s recent post for his jewelry box. It s deserving of its Daily Top 3, but it carries only one favorite and a relatively small number of views.

Beautiful piece, but the numbers don t add up. I personally believe the award is handed out by someone based on their assessment of the work.

- Rich


that’s what i would hope but ive seen projects so simple and basic that i thought why the hell is this getting a dt3.some of my own-lol. it’s like the shop pic’s which arnt a project yet got a dt3.the op re posted in his workshop pic’s but why didn’t the moderator remove it.ive seen that happen before.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#6 posted 09-18-2019 07:07 PM

I somewhat agree I posted this project I spent eight months building. Complete design and construction and didn’t receive the Daily Top 3. I was taken aback so severely that I avoided the site for over two years.

https://www.lumberjocks.com/projects/190202

So I’m uncertain what the criteria might be. Unless it was posted to late in the day for consideration.
I’ve posted projects that had almost no pre project planning and only one day to construct and received the Daily Top 3.

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#7 posted 09-18-2019 07:28 PM


I somewhat agree I posted this project I spent eight months building. Complete design and construction and didn t receive the Daily Top 3. I was taken aback so severely that I avoided the site for over two years.

- cvalley

That’s a DT3 in my book. Beautiful work. I suggest we grant cvalley an honorary DT3. Who’s with me?

Something I was also thinking is that the traffic on this site has dropped. Perhaps DT3s were more difficult to get in 2015. I honestly have no idea, just speculating.

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#8 posted 09-18-2019 07:34 PM



I somewhat agree I posted this project I spent eight months building. Complete design and construction and didn t receive the Daily Top 3. I was taken aback so severely that I avoided the site for over two years.

https://www.lumberjocks.com/projects/190202

So I m uncertain what the criteria might be. Unless it was posted to late in the day for consideration.
I ve posted projects that had almost no pre project planning and only one day to construct and received the Daily Top 3.

- cvalley


yeah theirs my point that should have had a dt3 without a doubt,but why.id like to see the ones that did that day and compare.ive seen guys that take a plain board,call it a serving tray and get dt3.the only award here that i think really has any meaning is the editors choice award,those are far and few.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#9 posted 09-18-2019 07:36 PM

Hi Pottz. I know what you mean. I don’t know the formula for a DT3 but it seems like it is by the number of views. I get one on almost everything I post and it is embarrassing when a much better project does not make it that day. I look at the editor’s choice or most discussed as a measure of greatness any more.

I do see people posting things in the wrong category and think ,oh well. I got to see it no matter where it is!! At one time some guys were getting a lot of flak for posting corian and other plastics in their work instead of wood. I think again, oh well, they made it on a woodworking machine. I just love to see what everyone is doing.

cheers, Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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#10 posted 09-18-2019 07:46 PM

i just went and looked at cvalleys other projects and he does gorgeous work and many of his best stuff has no dt3,but a simple cat shelter he made did.i would regard his work as some of the best here.please dont leave for 2 years again we need you.ya know jim it also seems that the guys that have been here the longest or post the most get more awards.just my observation,not based on any kind of statistics.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#11 posted 09-18-2019 07:56 PM

While we’re at it, here’s another question. How can they award a DT3 in the morning? But they do. What if three more impressive projects are posted later in the day?

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#12 posted 09-18-2019 08:12 PM

Thanks for the honorary DT3. I’ve made many projects and not even posted them. I’m going to make a medieval Round table for the Dining room. Out of solid Red Oak like the entertainment center with carvings. maybe I’ll document it.

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#13 posted 09-18-2019 09:30 PM



While we re at it, here s another question. How can they award a DT3 in the morning? But they do. What if three more impressive projects are posted later in the day?

- Rich

thats a good question,maybe the 24hr period starts when it’s posted ?

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#14 posted 09-18-2019 09:30 PM

Per the Creator of the Top 3:


Hi Peter, yes it s possible.

The top 15 and top 3 lists are refreshed every hour and take projects posted in the last 24 hours into account giving everybody equal chance of getting to the Top list. If it was calculated only once per day on a given hour all projects posted shortly before the deadline would never had a chance to make it to the list.

As I wrote in my original post:
“It is the list of projects that have been posted in the past 24 hours”
“This Daily Top 15 list is refreshed periodically during the day” (once every hour).

Ideally it should be called “24 Hours Top 15/3”.. but Daily sounds much better and 24hrs = 1 day.

Hope this makes sense ;)

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https://www.lumberjocks.com/msojka/blog/26471

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#15 posted 09-18-2019 09:31 PM

The subject of the “Daily top 3” has come up before. We had been told that it’s a weighted calculation
Favorites, Comments, and Views. Favorites have a bigger impact than comments, and comments a bigger impact than views. It’s a 24-hour rolling thing like others have mentioned, so it’s how you stack up against all projects in the 24 hours starting when your project was posted. There are far more DT3 items this way than if it were just one person picking their 3 favorite projects every day. For better or worse, it’s more a reflection on the site-wide interest in your project, than the quality of it.

That said, it’s just a little badge on the project on the website, I guess I never got too hung up on it and I’ve had about half of mine get DT3.

Edit: Sniped by Smitty lol

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