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Forum topic by liveoutdoors9 posted 09-17-2019 02:20 PM 424 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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liveoutdoors9

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09-17-2019 02:20 PM

Looking for some ideas for dust collection. My shop currently is in half of a two car garage with extremely limited space. I have a table saw, liter saw, scroll saw, router and hope to get a band saw at some point. I’m currently using a shop vac with a small hose after the fact to keep things relatively clean. I want to start doing a little better collection since my three year old comes in with me on occasion and neither of us really need to be breathing anymore than we have to. I’m definitely not looking for something super high end or to have to rig something up. Just a simple DC better than a shop vac. It’s a hobby shop so I’d look to upgrade in the future if I ever get more room, but space and value are important. Any thoughts on options?


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ibewjon

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#1 posted 09-17-2019 02:32 PM

Look at the jet DC with the vortex cone and pleated filter, 2 HP if it is in the budget. Mine does a great job. I will be changing to a better filter in the future. It is a 2 micron filter, .5 are now available elsewhere. The home built harbor freight conversions cost about the same as a ready to use machine, and add hours of rebuilding.

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WoodenDreams

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#2 posted 09-17-2019 08:35 PM

Of the three dust collectors I have, what I use most is a under the bench collector, rated for 660 cfm. Use a 20% coupon that HF has available all the time gives you a extra savings https://www.harborfreight.com/13-gallon-industrial-portable-dust-collector-31810.html For $55 more you can get a upright version with 1550 cfm rating (more air flow) https://www.harborfreight.com/2-hp-industrial-5-micron-dust-collector-97869.html Would hurt to get a extra 10’ hosehttps://www.harborfreight.com/4-inch-x-10-ft-transparent-dust-collector-hose-96478.html hoses are also available at places like Menards, Lowes and HD. I do use a 6 gallon shop vac for the hand held sanders. And using a vacuum attachment, you can vacuum the dust and shavings off the floor instead of sweeping. Your lungs will appreciate it. In time you may want to consider a Air Filtration Unit when working inside with the doors closed.

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Redoak49

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#3 posted 09-17-2019 09:21 PM

Definitely get a cartridge filter!

Beware of some of the claims that some dust collectors make. The HF ones are a good value but their cfm claims are way over done and in reality about half of what is claimed. The Jet with a cartridge filter is a good one.

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pottz

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#4 posted 09-17-2019 10:24 PM

ditto on jet dc’s ive had one for about 2 years and it’s great,actually all their machines are great quality.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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cmacnaughton

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#5 posted 09-18-2019 12:10 AM



ditto on jet dc s ive had one for about 2 years and it s great,actually all their machines are great quality.

- pottz


Except for the Shopline table saw I had. That saw was so bad it turned me off woodworking for a few years. I do have my eye on the DC though…good to know it’s well thought of.

-- –Chuck M. Nutmegger by choice

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pottz

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#6 posted 09-18-2019 01:05 AM


ditto on jet dc s ive had one for about 2 years and it s great,actually all their machines are great quality.

- pottz

Except for the Shopline table saw I had. That saw was so bad it turned me off woodworking for a few years. I do have my eye on the DC though…good to know it’s well thought of.

- cmacnaughton


sorry to hear that, besides the dc ive got their midi lathe, spindle sander,and 16-32 drum sander and have not had one issue with any so far.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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ibewjon

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#7 posted 09-18-2019 02:53 AM

I am getting a air velocity meter, industrial quality, not a cheap anemometer. One that really works. I will be checking velocity through my 5” ducts, then converting that to CFM. A little delay because I just found a hegner scroll saw on stand ($950) for $100. And the next day, an 18” flatmaster sander for $50. That was the money for the velocity meter. Hope to have it and be able to post results early October.

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BattleRidge

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#8 posted 09-18-2019 04:46 AM

While my workshop is 30’ x 40’ x 10’h, my woodworking area is contained to an area basically the size of a one car garage stall.

Before upgrading, my initial dust collection was via a shop vac and Dust Deputy which I was able to get by with for a while, and that I still use for general shop clean-up and at a drop-down area on my workbench / assembly table / outfeed area where the oscillating belt / spindle sander, portable router table, scroll saw and other items are often used, as well as for handheld power tools.

I was fortunate to purchase a 2hp Grizzly G0548Z w/ one micron canister filter for $200 (new it is $535 plus $99 shipping). The seller had purchased it new several years earlier but then purchased a larger unit at an auction and the Grizzly sat new, unassembled and unused in the corner of his shop until he needed the space. He couldn’t find some of the parts that became displaced over time but I was able to easily purchase replacements from Grizzly for $40 delivered.

The short story is to take a look at Facebook Marketplace and Craigslist for the occasional bargain that can be found and which can provide more bang for you buck. I have also purchased an 8” Grizzly G0490 Jointer ($750) and a 3hp Grizzly G1023 Table Saw ($650) through online postings, each in great condition – though be prepared to act quickly because the better value items don’t last long (I had each sitting in my shop the same day the postings were made).

The G0548Z is a good unit to consider and it is a quality unit at a fair price with plenty of capacity and flow, along with the one micron filter. The DC comes with a 6’ intake and an adapter with three 4” intakes. For better filtration and air quality, I highly recommend a good filter and to avoid the bag type filters. The DC works great and the flappers do a good job of dislodging the accumulated dust from the pleated filter, though I am planning on installing a Super Dust Deputy Cyclone in the system at some point (I have the cyclone & a container but have yet to place it in service).

I already had some 4” PVC pipes left over from a previous project and ran two parallel lines that I planned on replacing with 5” or 6” pipe at some point but have found that the present set-up works great and plan on keeping it as is. Each pipe has two inlets, each with a 4” metal blast gate and 4” flexible hose to it’s respective machine. One pipe collects from the band saw and the jointer, and the second pipe connects to my radial arm saw with an additional line that I connect to the table saw or to the planer when needed. I typically only have one blast gate open, but during processes in which I am going back and forth between two machines, I will occasionally have one blast gate open on each line with great collection results. I may at some point plumb the workbench drop-down area to the main dust collection system to replace the shop vac / Dust Deputy combo.

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Andybb

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#9 posted 09-18-2019 08:37 PM

My shop size is similar to yours. (I call it a shop, my wife calls it the garage). My system is more of a cobbled together system but it works well for me. I have one side of a 2 car garage so space is at an absolute premium. I built an enclosure for my 12 gal shop vac out of plywood with castors that is vented on the rear and lined it with carpet padding. It is connected to a DIY cyclone made from a 5 gal paint bucket and a smaller bucket that sits on top mounted on the wall up out of the way. The shop vac has a HEPA filter bag in it. As long as I empty the 5 gal bucket regularly the filter catches the really small particles and only has to be changed once a year. On top of it sits my scroll saw, mortiser and drill press. It is so quiet that I can barely hear it.

I have a T section of plastic pipe with 2 blast gates on it that I got free off of CL. One hose goes to all of the tools along the wall (drum sander, miter saw, drill press disc sander etc.) The other connects to approx 20’ of shop vac hose the runs overhead and drops down to the other machines (TS, router, band saw, lathe, jointer, planer). The tools with a 4” port all get an adapter with 6 inches of 4” PVC with an adapter that fits the end of the shop-vac hose. I just plug the hose into the tool I’m using. I also use it to vacuum the floor and flat surfaces which cuts down on the dust from sweeping. I use a remote switch that senses when a tool is turned on that activates the vac.

Not state of the art but the system takes up zero additional floor space since I’d need a surface to put the scroll saw, press and mortiser on anyway. The shop vac is only 75 CFM but that isn’t an issue as the suction a vacuum creates is actually stronger than most dust collectors create. The filter bag in the shop vac does a great job of filtering the micro dust. Works as well as my buddy’s Jet DC. Sometimes the large chips from the planer or jointer get clogged in the 4” adapter but they are easy to clear and I can live with that. There is a piece of rubber with a slit in it taped to the front of the TS where the tilt mechanism is which helps seal the bottom cabinet for better suction.

It ain’t pretty but it works like a champ!

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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