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Forum topic by kmetzger posted 08-30-2019 10:19 PM 1326 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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kmetzger

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08-30-2019 10:19 PM

At a woodworking school for kids where I’ll soon be teaching woodturning to beginners, I found this tool among the other turning tools, but I’ve never seen one before and don’t know if it’s even a turning tool. Can anyone enlighten me?

-- Kim, Ajijic, Mexico, http://tinyurl.com/7w5fm25


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#1 posted 08-30-2019 10:26 PM

Ah, I think I’ve found the answer: https://www.amazon.com/Turning-Chisel-Diamond-Point-Scraper/dp/B002XFQV1M
But how would it be used?

-- Kim, Ajijic, Mexico, http://tinyurl.com/7w5fm25

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#2 posted 08-30-2019 10:51 PM

Not a scrapper, Looks more like a parting tool or flat scrapper that someone ground down to make a Diamond point Skew chisel? Used on the Lathe by the way.

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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#3 posted 08-30-2019 10:56 PM

Found another source. This tool is a diamond point scraper. It is a scraping tool that makes a groove and can be used to make beads.
For spindle turning with most woods the skew or spindle gouge will both make better surfaces.
On bowls they have some use for making grooves.
However most folks today are using the point tool that Bill shows last above.
Does a finer groove and is fine for shaping beads.
http://www.aawforum.org/community/index.php?threads/spear-point-chisel.13256/

-- Kim, Ajijic, Mexico, http://tinyurl.com/7w5fm25

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#4 posted 08-30-2019 11:01 PM

I have one that I’ve used to cut a slight inward bevel on the bottom of a bowl. My chuck has something I can only describe as a lip that I expand in the groove.
This will hold the piece so the inside can be finished.
I’m not sure if it the right use of the tool.
Hope this helps

Good Luck

-- Aj

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#5 posted 09-01-2019 12:50 PM

That tool actually a spear point chisel and comes with a lot of expensive and inexpensive tool sets. Looks lot different than Raffan’s spear point scraper. Great for grooves, skew or spindle gouge will make cleaner cuts.
Other than grooves some use for cutting dovetails for mounting wood in a chuck.

Many woodturners think its a useless tool and regrind it for different uses.
Takes very skilled turner to use as a skew or shear scraper.

http://www.aawforum.org/community/index.php?threads/spear-point-chisel.13256/

-- Bill

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#6 posted 09-01-2019 02:04 PM

Thanks, Bill.

-- Kim, Ajijic, Mexico, http://tinyurl.com/7w5fm25

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#7 posted 10-05-2019 12:43 AM

These tools are capable of making wonderfully smooth cuts on spindles.

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#8 posted 10-15-2019 12:46 PM

the tool is called a bedan it is considered ageneral purpose tool even for parting off orwhere eever it comes in handy. NOT the most useful tool but I have not thrown mine away. I have turned it on edge to use for parting off. asfor regrinding I’d rather use an old file. use less than half of one if ya do.

-- retired GM/Delphi , Retired USN/USAFR

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#9 posted 10-15-2019 02:03 PM



the tool is called a bedan it is considered ageneral purpose tool even for parting off orwhere eever it comes in handy. NOT the most useful tool but I have not thrown mine away. I have turned it on edge to use for parting off. asfor regrinding I d rather use an old file. use less than half of one if ya do.

- davyj

This is bad advise in two ways.
1. + 1 on wildwood’s spear point, a Bedan is square across the front edge, a skew is angled and a spear point has two intersecting angles.
2. Reuse of files for turning tools is dangerous because the temper is too brittle for safe use. Sure they will take a fine edge but have NO temper for the shock of the lathe turning

-- "PLUMBER'S BUTT! Get over it, everybody has one"

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#10 posted 10-15-2019 02:19 PM

to use a whole file ? your right ! notice I said only use a part of a file but I am not going to argue either of your corrections. BUT maybe I should. NO TEMPER? then what DO ya call it? and IF one gets a file broke on the lath then one must have had way too much space between the tool restant the spinning work AND had been using a whole file
S’ok you got your notions, I have mine

-- retired GM/Delphi , Retired USN/USAFR

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#11 posted 10-15-2019 03:05 PM

Have to agree with Jack, tool not a Bedan and any part of old files do not make a good turning tool!

-- Bill

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#12 posted 10-17-2019 02:06 PM

Thank you wildwood. The temper of a file is extreme compared to a turning tool that has been modified to allow it to absorb the shock with a second lower tempering temperature called normalizing.

-- "PLUMBER'S BUTT! Get over it, everybody has one"

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