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Forum topic by Volpar4 posted 08-24-2019 11:03 PM 731 views 0 times favorited 25 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Volpar4

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08-24-2019 11:03 PM

Hello All,
I have a opportunity to buy a used/demo Industrial Cabinet Saw 3HP 52” for with 1 year warranty on saw and 2 1/2 year on motor. It is about 10 years old and uses the old clear brakes. The price is about $3700 lets say. Anyone have a good reason not to buy this saw. Age, brake, probably two dozen plus HOT DOG shows, trunnion wear and tear.
What do you all think?

Erin


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#1 posted 08-24-2019 11:17 PM

I think for another couple hundred, you could buy a new one. The seller IMO is WAY overpriced.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#2 posted 08-24-2019 11:24 PM

True its only about 20% off. Also $600sh of extras blades ect.

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#3 posted 08-25-2019 12:17 AM

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#4 posted 08-25-2019 01:58 AM

Ok but not the same saw. The one I’m looking at is $4200 plus tax and shipping

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#5 posted 08-25-2019 02:03 AM

And the one I’m looking at is local no shipping and is out the door with tax for a little less than $3700 with extras.

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#6 posted 08-25-2019 02:09 AM

Either one would be awesome. Have fun with your new saw!

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#7 posted 08-25-2019 02:10 AM

No Way I would!

For 1, It is about 10 years old
2nd, they probably demo’d at least 20 dogs a year (easy) probably over 200 dogs.
3rd, asking way too much for a saw that has been abused by the testing, although it hasn’t been worked hard.

Just my opinion,
For the money you want to spend, you can save a little more and buy new.
but from your replies it sounds like you really want it.

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#8 posted 08-25-2019 05:02 AM

IMHO it is WAY overpriced for its’ age and abuse. I hear the trunion takes a bit of a hit every time the brake trips.

I’m in the same boat you are in. I have been saving up for a Sawstop and I could at this time buy a used one but I’m going to wait until I have enough $ for a new one. When you buy used there is no guarantee it will work correctly. If you spend your money on used and it has issues you are stuck because now you don’t have enough for a new one and you have a 390 pound paperweight.

In addition there is a reason Sawstop redesigned the cartridge. There may be improvements in the blue cartridge.

-- measure 3 times, cut once

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#9 posted 08-25-2019 11:18 AM

I agree with the overpriced (by a lot) sentiment…..move on to the next choice.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#10 posted 08-25-2019 12:21 PM

Agreed. It’s just too much.

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#11 posted 08-25-2019 02:35 PM

Call SawStop to ask about the wear & tear from the tests. Their Techs might tell you what to look for, and give you a fair price range.

-- Doug - As my Dad taught me, you're not a cabinet maker until you can hide your mistakes.

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Volpar4

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#12 posted 08-25-2019 02:35 PM

Ok i cant say the store or state the out the door is $3557 for ICS 3hp 52 with mobile base, 3 blades and 3 brakes and with a factory Sawstop warranty 1 year & 2 1/2 on motor.

If I were to buy these same new idem’s that’s over $5200. Some ruf public math that is about $1700 off, so not just a few hundred as suggested.

I think this is a lot money for a used saw, but I think this saw is meant to be a lifetime saw that you pass down.

So i guess the real question is what are people paying for used equivalent saw?
Has and one had problems trunnion after brake activation or after multiple brake activation?

IMHO $1700 is a lot off any thing but i need the last two question answered from crowd-sourcing.
And your opinions

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Volpar4

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#13 posted 08-25-2019 02:36 PM



Call SawStop to ask about the wear & tear from the tests. Their Techs might tell you what to look for, and give you a fair price range.

- rcs47


thank you good idea

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#14 posted 08-25-2019 08:13 PM



...
I think this is a lot money for a used saw, but I think this saw is meant to be a lifetime saw that you pass down.
...
- Volpar4

Thinking about a fairly new technology machine, especially one including critical electronics, being a “lifetime saw that you pass down” is a bit of a risk… Technology is likely to advance significantly (and their specific implementation may not survive the patent expiration), rendering the ability to replace the critical part into the next generation (of family, not of equipment) highly questionable.

Old machines remain viable for a long time only because the technology is simple, robust, and not related to electronics.

If you wish to leave this saw to the next generation, be prepared to stockpile multiple cartridges.

Andy

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#15 posted 08-25-2019 09:15 PM

I agree with everything being said here. my opinion, for me the age of it, its overpriced even with the extras.
And the older tech, Older style cartridge. But calling saw stop directly and asking about that, may get you some acceptable answers that make this a better deal than what it seems at the moment. What are the real differences in the newer saws? And I see you are getting extra break cartridges. But why did they change them? Are any of them dado brake cartridges? I have had to many computer issues where items are no longer supported. so forced to buy newer model. Are the older brakes going to be available five years from now?
Good luck,

-- John

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