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Forum topic by cowboyup3371 posted 07-22-2019 12:28 PM 367 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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cowboyup3371

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07-22-2019 12:28 PM

The clock I’m building has been sitting in my shop since I brushed three coats of lacquer onto it Thursday evening thanks partially to our heat wave (no AC in the shop). However, I want to add a few more coats before I ship it out to my Cousin’s in Washington State. The shipping charge is cheapest if I use UPS ground but it will take about a week to get there which means I need to get it out by Thursday evening at the latest. This will allow me to inspect it once I get up there in enough time before my Aunt’s and Uncle’s 50th Wedding Anniversary on Aug 3rd.

If I get some more coats on it Tuesday afternoon, can I box it up on Wednesday and get it out in the mail without damaging the curing process then rub it once I get there? Or should I just suck it up and pay the higher 3-day delivery rates to send it out on Saturday?

-- Cowboy Up or Quit - If you are going to quit than get out of my way


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#1 posted 07-22-2019 12:49 PM

it has been noted that the inside temps of a shipping truck can
reach over 120*f. if you have a freshly painted project that lands on the
skin side of the truck, you would be taking a terrible chance of heat damage
to the finish. I would find a way to minimize surface contact with the
packing material that would allow the most air circulation and hopefully
minimize any packing material sticking to the finish.
personally, I would select the shortest shipping time possible.
what are the predicted daytime temps between OH and WA for next week ?
[hopefully, the Nation’s “heat wave” will be gone by then].

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-- I am a painter. That's what I do. I paint things --

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#2 posted 07-22-2019 01:14 PM

How big is it? How are you traveling? Can you take it with you to keep it safe?

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#3 posted 07-22-2019 01:18 PM

I coordinate shipments for a living and I can tell you in this situation whether or not the finish was a concern the only way I’d ship versus hand carry is if it’s in a crate. Then it’s protected and you can attach the clock to the crate with screws from the bottom and have no packing material touching it. Find a big enough box first and build the crate to fit in the box. Also to withstand being run over…

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#4 posted 07-22-2019 01:24 PM

The clock measures 14”x5”x11”. I am flying out and my original thought was to ship it so it wouldn’t get lost/damaged on the flight. I could try to pack it in one of my deeper suitcases and hope for the best.

-- Cowboy Up or Quit - If you are going to quit than get out of my way

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#5 posted 07-22-2019 01:33 PM

x1 GrantA & John Smith. Crate it so nothing touches it and ship. It takes about a week for lacquer to compleely harden. I wrapped lightly a 3 or 4 day old lacquer finish once, never again. Shipping it and the heat won’t damage things it is the packing material touching the finish while hot and not fully cured (hardened). Probably wouldn’t hurt to do the 3 day shipping and rubbing out when you get there is a good idea.

-- Bruce, Boise, ID

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#6 posted 07-22-2019 01:47 PM

May be too late, but pre-cat lacquer, you can finish, and then pack overnight.

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cowboyup3371

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#7 posted 07-22-2019 01:59 PM

I’m using Watco’s Semi-Gloss lacquer that I bought at Woodcraft a few months ago.

-- Cowboy Up or Quit - If you are going to quit than get out of my way

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#8 posted 07-22-2019 02:07 PM

I’ve always been told by lacquer finishing experts (sales reps from Gemini, M.L. Campbells, and Blue Ridge Products) that it takes 72 hours for it to cure.

I’ve also had finish coats on cabinets stick together while sitting on a truck overnight… Only to discover it when taking it off the truck after delivery.

It’d be best to accommodate your lacquer curing- however you do it. Let it cure, then ship, or make sure it’s not touching anything when you do.

-- Jim, Georgia, USA

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Kazooman

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#9 posted 07-22-2019 02:47 PM



The clock measures 14”x5”x11”. I am flying out and my original thought was to ship it so it wouldn t get lost/damaged on the flight. I could try to pack it in one of my deeper suitcases and hope for the best.

- cowboyup3371

A quick Google search led to a site that indicates the “standard” allowable sizer for a carry-on is 22×14 x 9. You could check with your specific airline. If it were my clock I would give it the extra time to completely cure and carry it wish my on the flight. My only concern would be if I was going on one of those regional flights where you might have to gate check a larger carry on. You could also explore that issue with the airline in advance of the trip.

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#10 posted 07-22-2019 04:00 PM

“Finishing then immediately shipping a project” This is a recipe for the greatest probability the item will arrive with flaws, if not outright ruination to the finish.

The stuff I use all has a cure time of around 2 months. As John stated right off inside a truck it can easily reach 120* in the Summer, and that can make some finishes practically liquid again. Soft for sure, and if pressure is added, then all kinds of misadventure awaits.

If you ever worked on a truck loading dock, you can/will understand this tumbling inside the truck is NOT a rare occurrence.

If forced to ship soon after completion. I would first look for something with a shorter cure time, and I would double pack, meaning pack the item securely, up to and including a wooden frame, and then pack that inside another bomb proof wooden frame, and post THIS SIDE UP ^ on every surface that should face up, I also would put do NOT crush all over it. I would insure it for full replacement, and ship next day air.

Huge cost, but much less handling, simply because it moves too fast to get touched too often.

-- Think safe, be safe

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#11 posted 07-22-2019 04:30 PM

Take them a photo, give them the promise of when it will be delivered so it can be finished properly and to your satisfaction. The perfect gift should remain perfect without taking any shortcuts. They will appreciate your concern and forgive it being two days late knowing how much you care. I celebrated a 54th year anniversary and my family around was much more important than the gifts they offered.

-- "PLUMBER'S BUTT! Get over it, everybody has one"

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#12 posted 07-22-2019 07:01 PM

+1^

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#13 posted 07-22-2019 07:29 PM

Bring it with you…
or since you planned on time to inspect… ship it earlier, and apply final coats (and touch-up) there on site.
Since you are brushing lacquer… (I never had luck brushing it)… you might consider a rattle can of lacquer from their local Home Depot

-- “The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” Mark Twain

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cowboyup3371

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#14 posted 07-23-2019 03:03 AM

Thank you all. After talking with the wife, I’m going to use one of our larger suitcases, pack it in real good, and take it with me next Wednesday. This will allow me to apply more coats tomorrow and let it cure some more.

-- Cowboy Up or Quit - If you are going to quit than get out of my way

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LeeRoyMan

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#15 posted 07-23-2019 03:09 AM

Be careful going through the airport, tell TSA that you have it, or they will probably think its a bomb.
Plan on them opening it up to look at it. Give yourself an extra 1/2 hour or so for the delay.

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