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Forum topic by therealSteveN posted 07-17-2019 03:48 PM 270 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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07-17-2019 03:48 PM

Rockler has their Miter Fold Dado Set Plus This is the dado that leaves only a small layer of plywood left, so you essentially fold a boxes bottom, into the sides, to make supposedly really fast drawer boxes. $349.00 cheaper with promotions.

FWW’s Tom McKenna shows you how to lay out a piece of plywood, and do the same same on a router table with a v-groove bit.

Going with a link through FWW’s site is here. Copy and paste would work best I think.

http://fm.e.taunton.com/ats/msg.aspx?sg1=98f18673474b7a02397e72066de35b12&source=W1724ENL&tp=i-H43-BC-Fva-luK1R-1o-PdYq-1c-luDIf-QcqE3&sourcekey=W1724ENL&utm_campaign=fine-woodworking-eletter&utm_source=eletter&utm_medium=eletter&utm_content=fw_eletter&cid=61230&mid=707911129

I’m not planning on trying either way, but if you were wanting to try, I am pretty sure a V bit isn’t going to be over 350 bux, taxes and all included.

Discuss…..

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#1 posted 07-17-2019 05:10 PM

It’s been done long before FWW tried that method. Here on LJ even, 9 years ago.

https://www.lumberjocks.com/BritBoxmaker/blog/17048

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#2 posted 07-17-2019 05:42 PM

yeah id say the v bit idea looks pretty good,and about 320 bucks cheaper.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#3 posted 07-17-2019 05:45 PM

Like so much in woodworking, it probably came to him from another source. I had just never seen a commercial product for that purpose until the Rockler blade set. I admit, until I saw that video, I had not seen, or contemplated it being done on a router. That is why I posted it. Hope that is Ok?

This LJ thread does talk about doing them from above on a RAS, which is novel, but also in an age where they are mostly not found in home shops like they once were. I figured everyone has a router table, even some without a TS.

I have seen a number of posts here and elsewhere about that blade set, and so far never a mention of this router table way of getting it done. I wonder why that is, if it is common knowledge?

I can see FWW doing it, because as my first line says, woodworking is largely the same, just retold time an again. Sorry if my not having seen these on a router before was upsetting to you.

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#4 posted 07-17-2019 05:55 PM

of course it’s good you posted it even if 90 percent of the j’s here have seen it many including myself havn’t,no matter how many times something gets shown there is always someone it’s gonna be new to.keep it coming TRSN.

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#5 posted 07-17-2019 05:58 PM

Thanks pottz. I have seen a bunch, and when I saw that video, I though darn, that is slick, and so much cheaper…

I also have heard set up time on those miter blades was longer, and more test cut than a 45* lock miter bit. It looked like you could get to depth pretty quick with the router.

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#6 posted 07-17-2019 06:07 PM



Thanks pottz. I have seen a bunch, and when I saw that video, I though darn, that is slick, and so much cheaper…

I also have heard set up time on those miter blades was longer, and more test cut than a 45* lock miter bit. It looked like you could get to depth pretty quick with the router.

- therealSteveN


yeah thats what ive heard the v bit looks pretty simple.the video doesn’t show a closeup of the bent edges though,im wondering how clean of an edge does it produce,and if the thin veneer might crack.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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#7 posted 07-17-2019 06:15 PM

I thought the miterfold blade was pretty ingenious when I saw it, and I have to say I have a lot of respect for Andrew Kline for pushing his ideas forward, but I too couldn’t fine a need point that would justify the cost. For occasional use there are too many other ways to skin that cat without buying a single purpose tool. For bulk production, a CNC router would be a better justification even at a higher price point since it can work without tying up the tablesaw or operator.

Now at a lower price point would I get it? Probably. It a shiny tool and acquiring tools is really the end goal after all.

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#8 posted 07-17-2019 06:19 PM

I can’t remember where, but the guy who came up with the saw blade set and sold it to Rockler posts in an online forum. Maybe here, maybe Sawmill Creek, I can’t remember. He also has a YouTube Channel. Anyway, at the Rockler closest to me they have a few of those sets marked down in their clearance section. They are still quite a bit more than the router bit.

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#9 posted 07-17-2019 06:24 PM

Here someone was saying they had tried that Dado set, and sometimes the corners did break off. It probably wouldn’t really change the integrity of the box, but it sure would complicate the glue up. A slippy slide, with no registration.

I’m pretty sold if I ever do try these, it will be on the router table. I am not one that is fluxomed by lock miters, and doing them on the RT or a drawer lock bit. Plus using a TS you can do lock dados/lock rabbet joint to make some seriously strong drawer joints, and pretty fast too. In all cases you are NOT doing a DT, so looks are maybe not important. That being the case any of them offer plenty of glue surface, and hold very well. If strong drawers at the focus anyhow.

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