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lblankenship

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07-14-2019 09:31 PM

Topic tags/keywords: cabinets counters stone built ins

Hey guys,

I’m building a set of builtin cabinets for a client. Basic two door lower cabinets, counter top and bookshelf on the top. For this build the lower cabinets are built separately from the bookshelves. The entire construction is 3/4” poplar ply with solid poplar doors and face frame.

Here’s where my question comes in. The client decided they wanted to do stone counters rather than wooden ones. Does anyone have suggestions on how to attach the bookshelf to the stone counter? Originally I was going to screw up through the wood counter but I’m not sure if that’s as likely with stone.

The bookshelf has a single stretcher along the back at the very top but the rest of the back is open and you will see the wall. I was planning on screwing through this stretcher to attach to the wall. I thought about using some sort of construction adhesive to fix the bottom to the counter but I wanted to see if anyone else had success with other methods.

Thanks in advance, I appreciate the help.


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Lazyman

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#1 posted 07-17-2019 03:17 AM

I can’t say I have done this but was just wondering: If it is attached to the wall and solid, could it simply just rest on the stone top without and attachment or adhesive?

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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lblankenship

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#2 posted 07-17-2019 03:20 AM



I can’t say I have done this but was just wondering: If it is attached to the wall and solid, could it simply just rest on the stone top without and attachment or adhesive?

- Lazyman

Yeah I thought about that. I just wasnt sure if you’d be able to wiggle it if you grabbed it by the bottom. The shelving will be attached at the very top and the shelving part is 5 feet tall.

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Lazyman

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#3 posted 07-17-2019 03:32 AM

How about drilling a small hole in the counter top and stick a dowel or metal pin int the hole? Might want to get the company cutting the stone to drill the holes.

Another thought is to sort of trap it between some pieces of corner round or other molding where the counter top meets the wall?

Just thinking out loud.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#4 posted 07-17-2019 03:44 AM

100% silicone works very well for this, and cleans up well off the stone if you ever remove it. You can get in clear or quite a few colors now.

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#5 posted 07-17-2019 04:49 AM

I would think the question there, is the “counter” level so that setting down on it wouldn’t create problems. If it is clearly not level, then you have 2 choices either to level it, or do some form of attachment to anchor to the wall. Something like a French cleat maybe? It will solely be a wall mount then , so both top and bottom attachment would be optimal.

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#6 posted 07-17-2019 02:52 PM

I wouldn’t see drilling through the stone would be an issue. Obviously with client approval.

Or an adhesive.

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#7 posted 07-17-2019 03:53 PM

Can you add a metal strip that would attach vertically from the bottom cabinet to the top cabinet in the back?

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#8 posted 07-17-2019 06:14 PM



Can you add a metal strip that would attach vertically from the bottom cabinet to the top cabinet in the back?

- Steve

^^^ This is how I’ve seen it done on many pieces of furniture. To some degree, sure you could grab the front of the bookcase and make it move a bit. Maybe only before books get put on it. But so what. Client wants stone top, this is the VERY small price they pay. And if you didn’t tell them, they’d never question it or have any problem with it.

Of course this assumes you can access the back and secure it, before you install it.

I also agree that you could add a dab of some adhesive to further secure it. And if the bookcase can be secured to the wall, like a wall cabinet, then I see no reason to attach it to the base cabinet.

-- Clin

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#9 posted 07-17-2019 10:25 PM

Could you just mount the shelves on the wall suspended perhaps one shelf height above the stone cabinet top. This way you won’t need to have it fastened to the stone and none of the expensive stone will be obscured. Of course, you will perhaps need to design the shelving a bit differently to accommodate your wall mounts. Or, If the customer wants it to rest on the stone top, go ahead and fasten it to the wall as if it weren’t supported; with fasteners (french cleat maybe) top and bottom.

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#10 posted 07-17-2019 10:30 PM

Depends on the surface area of the cabinet that is touching the cabinet. If just the frame and sides (i.e. 3/4” strip) are touching, you’d want an aggressive glue, like polyurethane construction adhesive. Or screw it down. If you have a flat bottomed cabinet, any calking or adhesive would work, since the larger area assures good adhesion.

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lblankenship

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#11 posted 07-23-2019 10:36 PM

Thanks guys, I just spoke with my client and they are now on the fence of whether to do wood or stone counters. Ha. If they decide to go with stone I think I’ll go ahead with a silicone adhesive. I appreciate all the help as always.

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