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Forum topic by MarineTanker posted 07-13-2019 10:28 PM 2984 views 0 times favorited 18 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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MarineTanker

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07-13-2019 10:28 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw question fence

Got my father’s Craftsman 10” Deluxe Contractor Saw setup, model number 113.299410 (rebranded Emerson, circa 1996-1997 I believe) with cast iron “grated” wings and original XR2424 fence and add-on Craftsman router extension wing with Craftsman router. I recently used this (along with my Festool track saw) to build custom kitchen cabinets for a remodel. But the XR2424’s teflon glides are either missing or detaching, and the rubber on the adjustment knob has hardened and falling apart so I want replace the fence entirely.

It appears the “new” Chinese-made Biesemeyer-branded fences under Delta are no longer up to the quality of the original USA-made ones, so my question is this: What current model fences are recommended for these vintage Craftsman?

The Delta 30 in. T-Square Fence and Rail System offered through Home Depot has high reviews (4.4/5 in 142). In fact, one of the reviews has a similar table saw and router wing extension:


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#1 posted 07-14-2019 12:43 AM

When I still had my Craftsman 113, I put a Delta T2 fence on it and had no problems with it.

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#2 posted 07-14-2019 01:03 AM

I think the Delta T2 (or T3…whatever the current version is) is smart money for that saw in the $200 range.

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#3 posted 07-14-2019 01:28 AM

I also would say the T2 fence is perfect for the smaller sized contractors, either that or a Vega homeowners, or “Utility” fence. It is a perfect miniature of the Vega Pro, the best, most accurate fence I have ever used.

Vega 26 Utility

Delta T2

On both looking around the web will likely find you much lower prices. Either will transform that Sears saw into a much higher potential wood cutting machine.

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#4 posted 07-14-2019 01:37 AM

Another vote for the delta! My 113 saw is great with a T2 fence on it!

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#5 posted 07-14-2019 01:39 AM

Dittos on the T2 or T3. No regrets on my buying my T2. larry

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#6 posted 07-14-2019 02:35 AM

The Incra and a good saw blade…

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MarineTanker

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#7 posted 07-14-2019 02:38 AM


The Incra and a good saw blade…

Wow, that is one BEAUTIFUL fence… but at $500+, it’s over 5x the value of the stock table saw itself in its present condition…

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#8 posted 07-14-2019 02:39 AM


Dittos on the T2 or T3. No regrets on my buying my T2. larry

What are the diferences between the T2 and T3? Is it just the T3 being newer?

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#9 posted 07-14-2019 02:40 AM

My favorite:

http://www.mulecab.com/

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#10 posted 07-14-2019 02:41 AM

Think of it like a horse and saddle- you will have a saddle when the horse is gone

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#11 posted 07-14-2019 02:43 AM

+1 on the Mulecab-
http://www.mulecab.com/

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#12 posted 07-14-2019 02:49 AM

Or… build it yourself and you can watch it on YouTube…

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#13 posted 07-14-2019 05:34 AM

Unifence if you want the best :)

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#14 posted 07-14-2019 06:48 AM

FWIW:
The Delta T2 fence system is cost reduced version of standard Biesemeyer fence using a 2×3 front rail.
The T3 fence system is lighter duty ‘home’ fence system. Uses the same T-Square design, but front rail and fence head is smaller diameter tube (1.5×2.25, or something like that?).

IMHO:
The current T2 is NOT same caliper fence as original white Biesemeyer fences sold back in time shortly after Delta bought Biesemeyer, often called ‘Industrial’ fences. The industrial fences used 1/4” thick angle rails, while the new T2 has thinner (~5mm) angle iron. The 2×3 tube is also thinner gauge steel on new T2 fences.
Nothing wrong with new T2 fence, but once you use both versions, the new T2 ‘feels’ different and maybe a little less solid? The Biesemeyer used to be the best in t-square fences (excluding the Unifence), but the current cost reduced T2 is now equivalent to clones made/sold by Jet/Grizzly.

The T3 is decent fence upgrade for contractor saw, providing using SHORT rails. If you want the 84 inch rails with 52” capacity; suggest the T2 with larger structure is better choice to connect your TS to the extension table legs required for long fence.

If you want an industrial T-square fence, and want it cheap: don’t forget you can make your own.
Here are some plans from Twisted Knot Workshop.
http://www.twistedknotwoodshop.com/PDF%20Files/tsquarefence.pdf

Best Luck.

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#15 posted 07-14-2019 12:16 PM

Marine Tanker…see post # 14 larry

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