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metalastic

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07-06-2019 03:13 PM

Topic tags/keywords: laguna quality problems reviews

Hi Guys,

1st post- this looks like its going to be a great site for me to explore!

I was hoping that I can get some appraisals on the overall build quality of Laguna machinery. Setting up a new woodwork shop, and wanted to stick with the one brand as much as possible. Have my eye on 8 different machines that from YouTube videos seem to be good quality- I have not seen any Laguna machinery in the flesh so can’t decide if it is as good as it looks.

Your views good and bad would be great to help me decide- thanks

Ian


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ibewjon

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#1 posted 07-06-2019 03:16 PM

I have the 14 SUV bandsaw, very happy with it. Well bulit. As for brands, I have one piece from each. All orphans. I don’t think one company makes the best of everything.

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jmn

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#2 posted 07-06-2019 03:37 PM

I have had a Laguna LT18 bandsaw (Italian made} for over 10 years now and it’s a nice machine. I use it only for re-sawing and has a 1” laguna Resaw King blade on it which is by far the best re-saw blade I have used.

Very nice machine.

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Lazyman

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#3 posted 07-06-2019 03:41 PM

I have the Laguna 1836 lathe. I would probably give it 4 stars on a scale of 5. It is a good solid lathe but there are few minor (so far) things that I would not expect in a $2000 machine.

While a shop full of the same brand machine might look nice, I would instead buy the best of each tool that you can afford. Laguna might make a great band saw for example but a Nova DVR drill press might be better for the same price or slightly more as the Laguna DP (not saying they are…just an example). Plus if one company does go out of business or even just gets bought out as happens so often these days, you don’t want to be stuck with a shop full of unsupported tools.

BTW, Laguna may not even make drill presses anymore so you may inevitably have other brands regardless.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#4 posted 07-06-2019 03:50 PM

As with any brand, build quality will vary by model and country of origin, so it’s worth doing some homework on a per model basis rather than just buy the brand name across the line. Some of the Laguna Italian bandsaws are supposedly pretty good.

I don’t know if their customer service has improved or not, but they’ve had more than their fair share of CS complaints over the years.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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fly2low

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#5 posted 07-06-2019 07:40 PM

I feel compelled to reply.
I have a Laguna 18HD bandsaw, 8”jointer, and 16” planer. All work as expected, and have had issues as expected. I have contacted CS on multiple occasions, and have been satisfied with their responses. NO complaints with CS

-- Rich Gig Harbor, WA

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#6 posted 07-06-2019 07:58 PM

I wouldn’t limit my tool purchase to new machines. An old (made in the USA) machine can be and usually is better than a new machine. Most of the machines are made in China and quality can be (and is) an issue with them. Taiwan machines are better and Japanese are great, if you can afford them. Just the fact that an old machine is still working after many years is a testament to it’s quality. Beware many of the European machines are made in China. I’m not saying Chinese is junk (a lot of it is), but they are capable of making fine machines. It just depends on how much you want to pay.

Anyway, welcome to the forum. there is a lot to learn here.

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metalastic

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#7 posted 07-06-2019 08:59 PM



I have the 14 SUV bandsaw, very happy with it. Well bulit. As for brands, I have one piece from each. All orphans. I don t think one company makes the best of everything.

- ibewjon


Thanks- I agree, but my reasoning was more that I hope to obtain a great deal for a bulk purchase, and am limited for brand choice with both Jet & Powermatic brands shortly going off the market here in Australia, as the Australian agent (apparently) has not been able to reach agreement with them. No doubt someone else will step in down the track but I am wary of being stuck with equipment that I cannot obtain reasonable support for. Grizzly does not have an Australian or any agent come to that as far as I am aware.

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metalastic

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#8 posted 07-06-2019 09:02 PM


I wouldn t limit my tool purchase to new machines. An old (made in the USA) machine can be and usually is better than a new machine. Most of the machines are made in China and quality can be (and is) an issue with them. Taiwan machines are better and Japanese are great, if you can afford them. Just the fact that an old machine is still working after many years is a testament to it s quality. Beware many of the European machines are made in China. I m not saying Chinese is junk (a lot of it is), but they are capable of making fine machines. It just depends on how much you want to pay.

Anyway, welcome to the forum. there is a lot to learn here. – MrRon


Thanks- I agree old machinery is often of a Superior quality than what is available these days but living in a very small state and not on the Australian Mainland makes sourcing any equipment- particularly old extremely problematic.

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metalastic

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#9 posted 07-06-2019 09:06 PM


I feel compelled to reply.
I have a Laguna 18HD bandsaw, 8”jointer, and 16” planer. All work as expected, and have had issues as expected. I have contacted CS on multiple occasions, and have been satisfied with their responses. NO complaints with CS

- fly2low


Thanks – appreciated.

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metalastic

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#10 posted 07-06-2019 09:14 PM



I have the Laguna 1836 lathe. I would probably give it 4 stars on a scale of 5. It is a good solid lathe but there are few minor (so far) things that I would not expect in a $2000 machine.

While a shop full of the same brand machine might look nice, I would instead buy the best of each tool that you can afford. Laguna might make a great band saw for example but a Nova DVR drill press might be better for the same price or slightly more as the Laguna DP (not saying they are…just an example). Plus if one company does go out of business or even just gets bought out as happens so often these days, you don t want to be stuck with a shop full of unsupported tools.

BTW, Laguna may not even make drill presses anymore so you may inevitably have other brands regardless.

- Lazyman


Thankyou- and I take on board what you are saying. A case in point for me is tablesaws. I have my eyes on a Sawstop machine- don’t know if it is comparable quality but love the safety feature, as all of this equipment is going into a community workshop with many inexperienced users.

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fly2low

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#11 posted 07-06-2019 10:47 PM

In addition to the Laguna equipment I mentioned, I have a SawStop PCS 3 hp 36” tablesaw. Sawstop is built very well, somewhat better than Laguna, and their manuals are infinitely better

When it comes to Laguna, my only complaint is their manuals – though CS sent me PDFs of improved manuals

-- Rich Gig Harbor, WA

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Desert_Woodworker

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#12 posted 07-06-2019 11:17 PM

2014 Laguna IQ CNC no problems to report (and I have run the machine for 22 continuous hours)
As for the old stand by Power Matic bandsaw that was hyped by Charles Neil on YouTube… I wish that the Laguna
14” would have been available. Similar to buying a vehicle today with blind spot indicators.
Just say’in

-- Desert_Woodworker

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MPython

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#13 posted 07-07-2019 05:46 PM

Thankyou- and I take on board what you are saying. A case in point for me is tablesaws. I have my eyes on a Sawstop machine- don t know if it is comparable quality but love the safety feature, as all of this equipment is going into a community workshop with many inexperienced users.

- metalastic

I would like to respond to your comment about SawStop table saw. I own a SawStop Industrial Cabinet Saw. The quality of the saw is comparable or better than the other top selling brands in the U.S. I traded a 1990s era Delta Unisaw for there SawStop. The SawStop is better built than the Unisaw. It is of heavier construction and the fit and finish are much nicer than the Unisaw. I have used Powermatic saws and several European saws. In my opinion the SawStop beats any other American brand in terms of quality of construction and is comparable to any European saw at the same price point. I have no interest in SawStop; I’m just a happy SawsStop owner.

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CaptainKlutz

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#14 posted 07-08-2019 04:26 AM

+1 Should buy tools that do what you want, how you want to do it;
Not just buy one brand.

IMHO – They are all same if you insist on buying only one brand!
Laguna is not better or worse than other major OEM – when you compare the AVERAGE of tools. They have good stuff, and just OK stuff; just like every OEM.

Discussion on build quality for an OEM will always be mixed results. Face it, OEM do not make the tools. They contract it out to others, many others. Since each mfg has different quality systems and parts suppliers, quality for one tool does not dictate same for all tools.

Last time I went looking for who makes what in wood working market; found that Laguna had lathes made by Harvey Industries (also makes Powermatic lathes and Sawstop), and many other tools mfg by combo of Huibang Machinery / Sanhe Machinery located in same complex in Laizhou China.

If I was in AU, which is a lot closer to China mfg sites, would be looking at direct purchase for the Huibang Machinery. With US sales dropping due tariffs, they have to be eager for business right now.
If you really want to shop direct to mfg, this post has some links that might help.
https://www.lumberjocks.com/replies/5218889

PS – Note sure how Laguna imports/sells machines in AU, but if they are imported to US first; we currently have tariffs on Chinese made wood working tools. Laguna introduced several saws made in Taiwan to avoid massive 25% price increase to cover tariff this year. Laguna inventory is also hard to find due change over in models.
Not sure if your countries situation is same/different?

PS -Curious if the impact from the US import tariffs spiking tool prices may be contributing factor in why your local agent may not continue?

Best luck on your new shop.

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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edapp

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#15 posted 07-08-2019 12:55 PM

Very impressed with my laguna 18bx bandsaw. Only laguna tool… but based on my experience with it I wouldnt hesitate to try another.

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