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Forum topic by boxmaestro posted 07-05-2019 01:28 AM 945 views 1 time favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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boxmaestro

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07-05-2019 01:28 AM

I’ve designed and will be selling in kit form a revolutionary new power feeder that will allow many woodworkers to use a power feeder for jobs they never considered power feeder use as an option. This is especially true for use on router tables and band saws, where even the smallest commercial power feeder is often too big and heavy (and expensive) to mount on small machines.

It uses a brushless motor cordless drill as a power source, and a plywood gear speed reduction box distributes the drills power to the feeder’s three polyurethane feed rollers.

But video speaks louder than words, so here’s a link to a couple of the more unusual things my little contraption is capable of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67d53pzsRQo

I’m looking for any input for changes that might improve it, or even thoughts of ridicule and skepticism!

-- alladd


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#1 posted 07-05-2019 02:08 PM

That is really cool. I can definitely use that on the TS for ripping long boards.

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#2 posted 07-05-2019 03:13 PM

thats very cool,i think a lot of guys would be interested in that.what is the price point your looking at? you say kit form is this something we would make from wood or will you supply all materials needed?

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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#3 posted 07-05-2019 05:28 PM

I’ll provide detailed instructions and all the parts required – polyurethane feed rollers, gears and shafts, bearings, the miscellaneous hardware, everything required for assembly of the feeder body, and detailed plans for the feeder holders, to be built from good quality plywood or hardwood. The holders can be built by a competent woodworker with a table saw and drill in an afternoon or two.

The kit will be available in three different levels: the cheapest option is for those with their own CNC routers who want to cut their own plywood gears and bearing plates. The middle option will include the gears and bearing plates, so only ordinary woodworking equipment is required to build the feeder. The third level will include the hardwood parts that need to be cut to close tolerances. The tentative prices for these options will range from about $85 to about $155.

A total of about 5 square feet of 5/8 (15mm) multiply plywood, such as Baltic birch is required to make the three holder components that will allow mounting the feeder in either a horizontal or vertically suspended position. The core of the feeder requires about 1 BF of hardwood.

I’ll be offering a UPS shipped package of the plywood required to make the holders for those who don’t have a local supplier or stock on hand.

There’s a bit more information on my web-site. I don’t know if direct linking here is permitted. My name is Al Ladd, and Google knows who I am…..

-- alladd

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#4 posted 07-05-2019 07:51 PM

what is your target date to start shipping?

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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#5 posted 07-05-2019 08:10 PM

I like it. I’d be more interested though if it had a motor. Motors are cheap. I’d rather not screw around with a drill and a clamp on the trigger.

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#6 posted 07-05-2019 08:33 PM

I will try to figure out a motor option, but for many the fact of not having to buy another motor is a plus. The drill goes on and off in seconds, as does its speed control. I’m not anything like an electrical engineer, and DC motors and electronic speed control is complex. It’s amazing what you get for such a low price in a cordless drill, especially the brushless motor kind!

If anyone knows the issues around assembling a working motor package for something like this(need full torque at speed range of around 10-125 RPM) I’ll pay for expert help!

Realistically, the earliest I will be able to start shipping is about mid August….

-- alladd

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#7 posted 07-05-2019 09:46 PM



I like it. I d be more interested though if it had a motor. Motors are cheap. I d rather not screw around with a drill and a clamp on the trigger.

- GrantA


yeah id like to see a version with an adjustable speed motor myself,but the drill idea is good for those that cant afford it.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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#8 posted 07-05-2019 11:50 PM

Just think, when the power goes out you can still use your feeder.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#9 posted 07-06-2019 12:51 AM

I like the concept.
Do you think it would be up to making 1000 square feet of tongue and groove flooring? Without too much fiddling around?

-- I intended to be a woodworker, but turned into a tool and lumber collector.

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#10 posted 07-06-2019 10:53 AM

Love this idea. But, I would also like to see a motor option instead of a drill. Another cool possibility would be to offer a kit with the parts made from aluminum and the option of a motor. I am sure that you could find someone local that would machine aluminum parts on a CNC for a reasonable cost, especially if we had a group buy in and could get enough orders together to order the aluminum parts all at one time. I would be willing to put money up for it.

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#11 posted 07-06-2019 01:18 PM

I like the idea of the drill version because it is the only one that makes sense (in a low cost kit form)

Once its aluminum/steel and includes a vs motor you will be more $ than an off the shelf power feeder. If you want a pre-built steel feeder with varible speed and a motor included just go out and buy a comatic.

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boxmaestro

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#12 posted 07-06-2019 09:30 PM

Thanks for all these responses. I think my feeder would have no trouble doing 1000 square feet of flooring.

As for upgraded materials, I am looking into a motor option, but it might make no sense if it’s too expensive, except for a very few users. The cheapest thing I’ve seen so far that is close to plug and play is from Makermotor, and it’s like $180. Chatted with him, and he was sort of blown away by the specs of a brushless motor drill for the price! So we’re seeing the wonders of mass marketing and really large scale mass production.
https://toolguyd.com/los-gatos-power-cordless-tools-ac-adapter/

The batteries have gotten really powerful and relatively cheap, and the market has gotten good about producing inexpensive replacements to keep products whose primary manufacturer have dropped. There are YT tutorials for running a cordless drill through an AC connected power supply, but it seems dicey, and some have tried to supply a commercial version, ($250!) but it didn’t work—whether for marketing or technical reasons I don’t know:

Another inspiration for my device is a long-defunct Delta fence mounted feeder called the Unifeeder. Here’s a report from a guy who did a great job reviving one to get very low feed speeds:
http://mike-stalkfleet.com/blog/2017/12/13/table-saw-power-feeder/
But I bet he spent at least $250 for his motor set up .He probably could have simply used a brushless motor drill…...

I’ll look into what it would cost to offer an aluminum plate option. I don’t think I want to put that kind of wear on my CNC router, so Ill have to get quotes on it. Since I’ll be offering the digital files to buyers it will be simple to find someone (maybe a friend with a CNC router) to make the plates from aluminum—about $20 worth of material for the two plates. If I see wear as an issue I’ll change to a more durable material, and a buyer could do the change themselves if the plates wore out while retaining all the value of the rest of the device.

-- alladd

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boxmaestro

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#13 posted 07-09-2019 06:58 PM

New video showing ease of set up on table saw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miFDsdULUm4

-- alladd

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#14 posted 01-16-2020 03:45 AM

It’s taken longer to get to this point than I anticipated, but I now have instantly downloadable plans for my brushless motor drill powered power feeder available on Etsy.Plans only are $20. Kits are also available at various levels of completion starting at $115 delivered. This is an especially cool project for someone with a CNC router who can make the gears and bearing plates easily from BB plywood. The plans are very comprehensive, covering use on table saw, band saw, and router table/shaper.

-- alladd

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